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    The Cheese (or Elton John) Dominant chord: odd names for everyday sounds-cheese-dominant-elton-john-dominant-jpg
    A music theory professor at the University of Iowa tweeted out the following: This is the first extended tertian harmony I ever learned, and to this day I still call it the "cheese dominant" or "Elton John dominant" rather than its proper name.
    https://twitter.com/Komaniecki_R/sta...52154212466689

    [For those who do not read music, this is an F chord with a G in the bass.)

    An interesting thread followed. The chord is very common in soul music---some call it the "Motown V", the "soul dominant" or just the "soul chord." Some call it the Carole King chord and others "the '80s V chord".

    As a kid I heard the E7#9 chord called "the Jimi Hendrix E" and I've heard the same thing as an adult. There's also "the Freddie King chord" (X X 12 11 9 12), used with great fanfare in "Hideaway." I don't remember too many other examples, though.

    What about you?


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    G11 of G/F, I most associate that with part of the gospel music chords.

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    I've heard Barney Kessel use this somewhere... will have to look for it.

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    [QUOTE=MarkRhodes;1086375]The Cheese (or Elton John) Dominant chord: odd names for everyday sounds-cheese-dominant-elton-john-dominant-jpg

    That's the 70s right there. I call it the Hall & Oates chord (check out 'She's Gone')

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    [QUOTE=Irishmuso;1086396]
    Quote Originally Posted by MarkRhodes
    The Cheese (or Elton John) Dominant chord: odd names for everyday sounds-cheese-dominant-elton-john-dominant-jpg

    That's the 70s right there. I call it the Hall & Oates chord (check out 'She's Gone')
    Funny you should mention "She's Gone." In the thread, someone posts a link to a journal article about pop music (in light of music theory) and has a lot to say about that song.

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    The Steely Dan Mu Chord (close add 9)


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    Oscar Peterson's "Misty Chord" D/Eb:


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    Quote Originally Posted by MarkRhodes
    The Cheese (or Elton John) Dominant chord: odd names for everyday sounds-cheese-dominant-elton-john-dominant-jpg
    A music theory professor at the University of Iowa tweeted out the following: This is the first extended tertian harmony I ever learned, and to this day I still call it the "cheese dominant" or "Elton John dominant" rather than its proper name.
    https://twitter.com/Komaniecki_R/sta...52154212466689

    [For those who do not read music, this is an F chord with a G in the bass.)

    An interesting thread followed. The chord is very common in soul music---some call it the "Motown V", the "soul dominant" or just the "soul chord." Some call it the Carole King chord and others "the '80s V chord".

    As a kid I heard the E7#9 chord called "the Jimi Hendrix E" and I've heard the same thing as an adult. There's also "the Freddie King chord" (X X 12 11 9 12), used with great fanfare in "Hideaway." I don't remember too many other examples, though.

    What about you?

    Yeah for the last few years I’ve called F/G the Boomer dominant lol. but yes Gospel to Motown to Carole King....

    Jordan K likes that one as a ii chord

    I think Beato called G/C the Genesis chord

    Am(maj9) obviously James Bond

    More guitar specific

    x x 2 3 3 3 The Django chord

    3 3 2 4 x x the Kurt Rosenwinkel chord

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    Oh the ‘instant contemporary jazz chord’

    x 5 8 5 6 x

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    Quote Originally Posted by MarkRhodes
    The Cheese (or Elton John) Dominant chord: odd names for everyday sounds-cheese-dominant-elton-john-dominant-jpg
    A music theory professor at the University of Iowa tweeted out the following: This is the first extended tertian harmony I ever learned, and to this day I still call it the "cheese dominant" or "Elton John dominant" rather than its proper name.
    I downloaded Bucky Pizzarelli's 'A Pros Approach to Chord Melody' from the web, 6 - 8 tunes ( ballads + a couple of Bossas I havn't got to yet), this chords all over the place - I'll have to check when it was written..

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    Quote Originally Posted by christianm77
    3 3 2 4 x x the Kurt Rosenwinkel chord
    Also a Jim Hall favourite...

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    Quote Originally Posted by dot75
    I downloaded Bucky Pizzarelli's 'A Pros Approach to Chord Melody' from the web, 6 - 8 tunes ( ballads + a couple of Bossas I havn't got to yet), this chords all over the place - I'll have to check when it was written..
    If it’s got Bossas, 60’s earliest

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    David Gilmore's Em:

    025000

    Rake it slowly from treble to bass and give the trem a wiggle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by christianm77
    If it’s got Bossas, 60’s earliest
    1979...

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    Quote Originally Posted by christianm77
    Oh the ‘instant contemporary jazz chord’

    x 5 8 5 6 x
    yay !

    my fav version of dis chord is

    025232

    (you’ve been takin your time
    5x5500
    you’ve been livin on
    024000
    solid air ....)

    that’s beautiful to me ....

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    Surely it’s Zzzzzolid air?

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    Mark Levine has called it the Carol King chord too. He also labels certain chords the Herbie Hancock chord (2 of those), the Kenny Barron chord, the Monk chord, Bill Evans chords (all stock rootless voicingings in 4 note close) ... the McCoy Tyner major chord and the Chick Corea major chord, also the Duke Ellington chord. In addition to those I personally have two chords nicknamed Keith Jarrett chords and also two Joe Sample nick named chords.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rintincop
    Mark Levine has called it the Carol King chord too. He also labels certain chords the Herbie Hancock chord (2 of those), the Kenny Barron chord, the Monk chord, Bill Evans chords (all stock rootless voicingings in 4 note close) ... the McCoy Tyner major chord and the Chick Corea major chord, also the Duke Ellington chord. In addition to those I personally have two chords nicknamed Keith Jarrett chords and also two Joe Sample nick named chords.
    You should spell those out!

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    I really love turning the diminished scale into a chord (on the piano) or a long arpeggio:

    B D F Ab Bb Db E G

    or more unstably:

    Bb Db E G B D F Ab

    Who owns that? Duke?

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    Funny you should mention "She's Gone." In the thread, someone posts a link to a journal article about pop music (in light of music theory) and has a lot to say about that song.[/QUOTE]

    I've had a quick read through that article, even though I think the compulsion among academics to analyse and publish often overrides any actual utility the analysis may have. I wonder how much of the harmonic embellishments belong to the producers shining up the basic song? I think Arif Marden was in charge of the 'She's Gone' session and was responsible for the irresistable but completely over the top orchestral section which rises in half steps. Did George Martin smooth out some of the more awkward chord changes in early Lennon McCartney material?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigDaddyLoveHandles;[URL="tel:1086947"
    1086947[/URL]]You should spell those out!
    yes please !

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    Episode #185 (9/23/2019) at 00:37:00 Jimmy Bruno & Bruce Forman discuss the "Montgomery Wards" & other bridges.

    GuitarWank

    Can't find it anymore but there was a video of Duke Ellington talking about "Cantoring" to build up an
    audience before an act: a simple, repeating I- vi-ii-V chord vamp; "We want Ed-die."

    What? No mention of the 'secret Carlos Santa Chord Progression.'