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Originally Posted by grahambop
Good to see I am not the only one who gets fooled from time to time around here!
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09-14-2020 10:26 PM
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Originally Posted by cosmic gumbo
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Originally Posted by voxsss
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Originally Posted by AlsoRan
Be-Bop Stompers
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Joe Pass did it and then got sampled by a rapper.
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Not quite Joe's tune, is it? The original, that is.
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Originally Posted by grahambop
Lord knows he terrorized me a time or two ( and I loved every minute of it)....
Last edited by AlsoRan; 09-15-2020 at 08:55 AM.
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one more thing I would like to add: when a chord progression has an interesting turn, that is a nice surprise and both the player and the listener enjoy it. However if the _very_ same turn repeats both within the progression, and then connecting back into itself, so practically endlessly, that is everything but not surprise and not interesting, it is the exact opposite: boring.
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Originally Posted by ragman1
I didn’t like Joe’s version much when I first got the album (I was into all the exciting heavy Coltrane stuff etc) but I quite like it now. In fact I had a go at it myself this morning, inspired by Joe’s version, kind of bossa feel and tempo with a few single lines thrown in. Might try and work it up into a solo piece.
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Trane Changes are not created to be liked...
they are to be experienced, terrified, developed, denied ... whatever .. but not to be liked...
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Seriously .. .Trane is probably one of the musicians in jazz for whom changes is only the very very starting point of the most unexpected and unpredictable journey.
I am sure he did not like those changes himself... it was not about liking... he designed them to give himself a routing or mapping... to jump into the things he really cared to achieve with music.
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Originally Posted by rintincop
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Originally Posted by Jonah
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latin style:
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fusion:
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chicken pickin’:
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Thanks, I'll give it a better listen :-)
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Originally Posted by grahambop
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Originally Posted by grahambop
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Originally Posted by grahambop
so would this be more or less of a challenge to play vs JC style
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Originally Posted by wolflen
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I don’t like the taste of mackerel. There, I said it.
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Originally Posted by rintincop
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I LOVE Trane changes. Believe it or not I woke up this morning thinking about them. I spent a long time practicing them. And I thought I need to revisit playing them. To me they're most exciting when he plays them as substitutes over regular changes.
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Originally Posted by grahambop
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Here's my take on it.
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I think Trane put some of those changes into the bridge on his recording of Body and Soul, then later on Dexter Gordon adopted it too.
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Originally Posted by grahambop
The Major 3rd movement of the major chords..(augmented theory) is what gives GS its unique flavor.. Flamenco Sketches on the Kind of Blue album (which was released in the same year that GS was recorded I think) you will hear some use of the major 3rd flavor.
Bill Evans most likely wrote that tune ..as well as Blue in Green..but both are credited to Miles..now it could have been an influence that JC used in GS...
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Originally Posted by grahambop
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Originally Posted by grahambop
He does his best to find and outline traditional melodic and harmonic connections (because it's his way of musical thinking)... and actually succeds in it.
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Also of course the bridge of ‘Have You Met Miss Jones’ contains some ‘giant steps’ type changes and Coltrane must have been familiar with it. It would be interesting to hear him play it but I don’t think he ever recorded it.
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5 MNTHS BEFORE HE PASSED...
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This is quite outrageous ...
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Dave Pollack just posted this on youtube .. Giant Steps played at 40 BPM.
I kinda dig it!
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Originally Posted by cosmic gumbo
Long before them, "Anachronic Jazz Band" founded in 1976 by pianist Philippe Baudoin (author of a well known "anthologie des grilles de Jazz" ) inaugurated the concept
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Obviously, there's nothing wrong with the changes. It's just that the harmonic rhythm at that tempo is insane. The Trane players that concentrate soley on GS wind up sounding very mechanical. Some of them can be replaced...
Giants steps solo by a Robot! - YouTube
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Lots of talented youngsters! What a great sound from a Fender...
Also, excellent colour coordination. Strikes me as a good reason to get a large collection of guitars of different colours, so that you can match your outfit. #justifications.
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This little guy's good.
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Probably one of the best versions of Giant Steps I've heard to be honest
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Originally Posted by ragman1
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Originally Posted by Gabor
record collection, I first heard him aged 10 , bought his CD ," My Favourite Things" released in 2015 and Wynton Marsalis calls
him , " His Hero" if there was ever a a musical genius , JA is one.
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Yeah, yeah, they're all good. But not as good as mine :-)
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"When I was in my mother's womb I would listen to jazz"
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