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10 Options for Improvising over V7 Chords and Altered Dominants • Jazz Advice
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08-03-2019 11:49 PM
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Originally Posted by djg
I don’t buy your distinction- this is why:
Jazz musicians have always favoured a Dorian or melodic minor (that is minor6) tonality on minor chords (the cc solo is a typical example.) I’ve heard it argued this was Eddie Durham’s innovation in the later 30s (Charlie’s mentor) but I have reason to doubt this.
The main difference between pre modal and post modal is whether or not they hang out on the seventh..... but even then there are exceptions. Hence the distinction between minor 7th and true minor. It’s not a scalic distinction so much.
So you could say that the trend post miles was to play the minor chord as more of a suspended sound - if that makes any sense, by outlining . (relates to the cst concept of the 13 being an avoid note on Dorian if you like - Charlie Christian’s generation reversed this.)
This is also why you rarely hear the blues scale played in full with the b7 in the 30s and 40s....
So in this sense the I minor chord has always been related to a II V it’s just pre modal it’s more V and post modal it’s more II..... (Not quite as simple as CST says it is though, because m6 has its own distinct tonality to my ear...)
Anyway I’m a bit busy but will contribute more examples at some point because this is an interesting subject - provided we are not merely arguing semantics.Last edited by christianm77; 08-04-2019 at 05:16 AM.
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Originally Posted by djg
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Originally Posted by djg
In general my MO with II v I s and such is to play a fault vanilla dominant sound and then use some sort of altered ‘dark’ sound (dim, tritone, altered etc) to connect. So yeah.....
But that to me is a bebop thing.... Pre war players did this less. CC is an interesting one for this reason.
If you will only accept the resolution from the maj 3 of the key (13 on V7) to m3 of the tonic chord, that’s hard to come up with on demand.... personally I tend to think it’s easier just to say, you can use it if it sounds good.
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Originally Posted by djg
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Originally Posted by djg
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