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Originally Posted by mike walker
Originally Posted by mike walker
My point was only that one can improvise perfectly well in jazz without thinking about CST at all.
That doesn't mean CST is useless - still less that it "dictates" dumb ways to play. It means - as I said elsewhere - that it isn't an improvisation strategy, and the mistake (not yours, natch!) is to think it is.
HG's beef seems to be based on an impression that CST masquerades as a strategy, which it doesn't. I think he was just trying to make sure that his students didn't fall under that impression, as it seems (by his irritation) he must have encountered many that have. He did it by emphasising a real strategy, but without putting CST in its proper context.
Originally Posted by mike walker
Originally Posted by mike walker
Originally Posted by mike walker
Again, I accept CST is not about suggesting one has to explore every chord.
Originally Posted by mike walker
Originally Posted by mike walker
Personally, I find I play things I didn't expect all the time; keeps me on my toes .
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10-29-2012 02:46 PM
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Originally Posted by jster
But I just managed to find The Cross, and you're welcome to a "yikes" for that one too . It's a lot less frantic in mood, of course, but I've just spent a fruitless couple of minutes trying to work out the metre of the opening section (I know - or at least I'm reasonably sure - it goes to 12/8 later...)
I find that kind of thing tiring, but probably just because I'm getting old. (As a young man, I suspect it would have been inspiring.) It's OK, don't mind me. The nurse will be along shortly with my medication...
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Jon, I think this is more of a problem of how some interpret CST rather than CST
itself. That, I think, seems to be something we are, fundamentally,
in agreement on.
But, hopefully not flogging a dead flea here, just one point you make about
not needing CST to improvise well:
The 'thinking' is left to those strategies that can be adopted in the practice room. And many things are not needed to improvise well.
Indeed, we can purposefully omit certain aspects of playing, arpeggios, 16ths, certain systems, blah blah.
All good, man.Last edited by mike walker; 10-29-2012 at 05:58 PM.
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Originally Posted by 4thstuning
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