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"But tell me, where is the music of the early 20th century .. You try to tell me that Zoot Sims is better than Rachmaninoff and Shostakovic? Are you sure that the music you so proudly speak off isn't a pale watered down version of the music that came before it?" Lobomov
Hi, L,
This is called a non-sequitur fallacy in Philosophy. You are lumping two very different genres of music(Jazz/Classical) as an example for your views much as when someone would compare Ozzie Osbourne ,say, to Segovia. Further, why are you so mute that you cannot provide a simple list of 5 great Jazz musicians in the last 30 years? You can't keep making general statements without providing some concrete examples. However, I certainly agree with Fep's mention of Joey Alexander. Good playing . . . Marinero
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05-20-2020 11:02 AM
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Originally Posted by christianm77
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Well, guitar players? Where do we start?
You want original and amazing, you could do worse than check out Reiner Baas.
In terms of any style of guitar you care to mention the bar has been raised to a very high level.
Beyond the guitar, you need to check out this guy
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Here's some other things
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I'll not entertain any global objective assertions, but subjectively those three examples are to my ear more heralds of the death of music, not just jazz.
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lot of NPR tiny desk concerts lol.
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I find the Laura Mvula in particular to be remarkably original.
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Speaking of trained composers
Heres some Caroline Shaw
David Bruce
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While I've repeatedly have stated there is no lack of technically great musicians amongst younger players. There is a huge void in song writing and groove! This is for all genres.
And while all generations need their HERO'S. I don't find any in the Musical Mold of the past i.e. Louis Armstrong, John Coltrane, Jaco Pastoius, Jimi Hendrix.
The difference is not their technical skills, but their Soul and Song Writing. I find a lack of Soul in most of the newer musicians. And for me that is the connection that matters most!
By the way a lot of the newer Hipster Hero's are what a freind of mine used to refer to Art Students experimenting with Synthesizers ! Same with Velvet Underground in Andy Warhol movement of the 1960s
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Bloody love this record
And this one
Here's Chris Thile playing Bach
And covering Billie Eilish
Might want to listen to Chris has to say here. He is better than you. TBF he is better than almost everyone alive.
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So, yes. Chris Thile. In terms of sheer 'lolwhut?' ness, this ranks above my favourite things. Here's an entirely electronic track by Radiohead
Covered by the Punch Brothers on acoustic bluegrass instruments.
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Originally Posted by christianm77
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New "amateur" crap.
Compared to this, old school "pros" turning knobs on some Moog or such look like toying.
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And you kids have nailed exactly what I hate about newer music. Thanks so much for the clarification.
I might be stuck in the past and resistant to the newer technology and what it has produced. But nothing posted so far even resembles what rocked my world as a kid or a grown-up.
This also explains why there are no venues worth playing any longer. Since as a soundman so aptly explained it a few years back."The People who listen to that music are either Dead or in AA!"
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Dunno, I'm 40 and find bad rock more annoying than bad dubstep.
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Originally Posted by emanresu
This is a HyperGrowl!
(old school pros, 1974)
First note of the song... quick, turn it up!
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Add some reverb;
Don't forget to stack the layers.
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Old and new together in happy synergy!
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Originally Posted by christianm77
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Originally Posted by jads57
But it's your life. As for age, this is an attitude I grew out of. Maybe you will too.
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Thanks for the positive words of encouragement, but as they so famously said " It don't mean a thing if it ain't got that swing!"
Funny but it's the same with movies and newer Hipster restaurants as well. Been there done way too many times. And done much better in the past for me anyways.
Grew up in New Orleans in the 1970's and it doesn't get any better than that maybe L.A. or New York City in 1950's and 1960s
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Originally Posted by Marinero
Got it.
Speaking of smug and righteous ...
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The tubas are coming for you.
you have been warned.
An interview with Henry Robinett
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