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Originally Posted by pkirk
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01-30-2017 11:09 AM
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Originally Posted by grahambop
here are the tracks:
1. I’ll Be Around 4:55
2. Pusherman / Superfly 7:16
3. Wichita Lineman 6:04
4. Aquarius 7:18
5. Never My Love 6:10
6. Superwoman 6:06
7. Never Can Say Goodbye 5:50
8. Make It With You 5:06
9. Money 6:50
10. That’s The Way Of The World 4:52
1. Harvest for the World 6:04
2. What’s Going On 6:12
3. Trouble Man 7:29
4. Midnight Cowboy 5:27
5. When Doves Cry 5:49
6. Send One Your Love 5:02
7. Can’t get next to You 6:30
8. Time of the Season 7:16
9. Signed, Sealed, Delivered, I’m Yours 4:52
10. One Hundred Ways 6:04
11. Sunshine of your Love 5:05
http://www.davestryker.com/wp/product/eight-track-ii/Last edited by pkirk; 01-30-2017 at 11:39 AM.
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Originally Posted by snailspace
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Originally Posted by pkirk
Some wild ideas there ... liking your work so far.
Stumbling fingers still need love ...
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Just for fun, I'm looking at Neil Sedaka's Laughter in the Rain and The Carpenters' We've Only Just Begun (because of wonderful versions I've heard by Earl Klugh and the late O'Donel Levy).
Folk-rock recontextualised as Soul really floats my boat, and I'm giving serious consideration to the idea of arranging a set for my 'microsymphonic' ensemble.
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I like Randy Newman tunes... many of them incorporate different styles of American music...
I think songs like 'Louisianna', 'Dixie Flyer', 'Dayton Ohio', 'Miss You', 'Sail Away', 'You Can Leave Your Hat On' and many others would sound fine in kind of fused 'soul-blues-country-jazz' style as instrumentals...
I like his treat of harmony... very simple but often very interesting and sensiitve to the meaning of the lyrics...
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Folk-rock recontextualised as Soul really floats my boat, and I'm giving serious consideration to the idea of arranging a set for my 'microsymphonic' ensemble.
but the way Julian plays sounds much more jazzy than Chris... (though both are great)
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Another 'new old one'... I found Matt did 2cds of Lost music of Willard Robinson (author of Old Folks)
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Originally Posted by pkirkOriginally Posted by R Neil
BTW, Thanks for reminding me, not exactly Jazz, but my variation on that song from couple of years ago. For the most curious part, once someone offered me money to send him the recording ...
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Then there's Michael Franks (but I could live without further versions of Antonio's Song).
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Curtis - such a beautiful voice - singing that "War is never won".
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Apt for the times, too.
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Yes Disney princess movies and also lots of TV shows for girls.
My daughter just turned 12 and she and all the neighborhood girls her age and younger love not the two chord vamp/taylor swift Katy Perry stuff but the more "broadway" stuff. My house is full of 10-12 year old girls pretending to be black guys pretending to be colonial patriots, but also with show like "Equestria Girls" and "Sophia the First: also "Tangled" and "Frozen"
these are songs that require actual singing chops and which also have actual chord changes and some degree of harmonic complexity. It's kind of heartening
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Originally Posted by BigDaddyLoveHandles
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"Uh, only if you want to take it there...jeez."There you go AlsoRan.LOL I can't for the life of me remember a BeeGees tune that in it self had a nice chord progression or how i ended up discovering that oh yea a pay gig.I look for it later.
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"Uh, only if you want to take it there...jeez."There you go AlsoRan.LOL I can't for the life of me remember a BeeGees tune that in it self had a nice chord progression or how i ended up discovering that oh yea a pay gig.I look for it later.
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Sorry bout the dble dip.
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How Deep Is Your Love?
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Originally Posted by goldenwave77
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Russell Malone, whose playing I like a lot, supposedly knows like every standard ever written.
But he also plays a surprising variety of newer stuff, e.g., "You Send Me" (the Sam Cooke tune), theme from The Odd Couple and Gunsmoke, and You Are The Sunshine of My Life.
Even his more pure jazz stuff is accessible. My 19 yr. old, who barely listens to music at all, liked Bright Mississippi, a Monk tune based on Sweet Georgia Brown, when he heard me play the CD.
I've read that Malone started out playing country and blues, so maybe that accounts for his tunefulness.
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Lots of great ideas here, folks, thanks. Reminded me even of some tunes I've done but forgotten about (like "We've Only Just Begun," what a great tune)
Like I said before, it all comes down to a good melody. Harmony can be twisted into a thousand different things...but with melody...you can't polish a turd.
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Todd Rundgren.
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Originally Posted by goldenwave77
I'm with Cosmic Gumbo on the issue.
The Beatles' tunes are already 50 years old and Dylan's and of all those people. There were already several revolutions in popular music since then. 80's with synths and drum machines, 90's with grunge, and techno, 00's with "r'n'b" and rap ... of course, all overlapping, but we are almost 20 years into 21st century, it's about the same amount of time that separate The Beatles from Bird, it's 3/4 of the century after Bird ... Gunsmoke was my favourite before I went to school and I will be 50 this year ...
All the Dylan, The Beatles, Gunsmoke .... including the 70's ... they were all incorporated in "revolutions" I mentioned above. For me, there's no point in revisiting them only to play them in 40s be bop style, or something alike and make them sound even older, or turn them into something nice and sleazy and ruin everything that was good about it (One Toto is more than enough for the lifetime of this planet).
On another hand, I understand it could be fruitful for working musician, to broaden the repertoire, but if they are after that, they could just as well broaden it with more contemporary stuff.
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Originally Posted by Vladan
I have a copy of the Sher Real Book, and there are a LOT of tunes in there that people just don't know, and I suspect very rarely get played...through composed instrumentals. Probably you could do an interesting analysis of the behind the scenes lobbying that went INTO getting those tunes included in that publication to begin with: How many people here can whistle or hum, "Not Ethiopia" ?!
New country stuff ?...a lot of this has gotten very formulaic...really trite vocals, and country-ized instrumental stylizations on top of bad rock n' roll rhythm sections....too loud, and too square, drummers. I'd rather listen to a decent honky-tonk style band. Honestly, the "Country Bears Jamboree" animal mannequins at Disney World, as corny as they are, are better to listen to than a lot of New Country.
I don't mind listening to well-done styles from a by-gone era. Dixieland, Big Band, bop, Hard Bop, Cool, vocalists with a small combo or a Big Band, MoTown, some Classic Rock, and even some fusion.
Listening to jazz music requires some attention, and patience...I enjoy learning a new song, trying to improvise on it, and listening to 5-6 versions of it by different players...maybe to a rock n' roll- based audience, this is too slow....you can almost tell in an audience the large # of people who seem to tune out once the improvisation starts--they just can't be bothered to listen and try to discern any structure, any theme, etc. It's why I always tell novice listeners to listen to the head the 1st time through, and then hum it QUIETLY to themselves as the musicians play...oftentimes that will get them attuned to what is happening.
PS: Some of my responses are included in the boxed text, above, but I'm not going to re-do this. I think the intent is clear.Last edited by goldenwave77; 02-01-2017 at 03:00 PM.
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Originally Posted by goldenwave77
- I certainly have no idea about Sher's obscure recordings, even less about country, modern country ...
- What you list as endless examples, I see as mere variations. it was more less a thing of different soloist, vocal or instrumental, over one same background sound. Maybe those were not revolutions, but the sound was completelly changed, grooves and harmonies reinvented.
- Where you find good songs?
Not in fakebooks. You find them on the radio and on internet. Those have not be songs you like. They only need be contemporary and popular. Simpler they are, less Jazz they are, more formulaic they are ... more room you have to break the formula and turn them into something you like. You just have to take some effort to keep them recognizable.
- No need to feed the listener chewed food, but also no reason to artificially obscure the obvious. Providing fresh perspective is some middle ground, IMO.
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