View Poll Results: How many Charlie Parker tunes do you know?
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I don't know any
16 21.33% -
A couple
32 42.67% -
A half dozen or so
17 22.67% -
At least a dozen, probably a few more
6 8.00% -
Twenty, easy, probably more
4 5.33%
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Thanks eddy b, princeplanet !! smoking ....
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03-30-2015 07:35 PM
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Originally Posted by princeplanet
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Originally Posted by Hep To The Jive
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Here's Anthropology version that I dig the most. I guess, also depends who's playing. Everything that this guy played is superb, even the bebop tunes I originally didn't like that much.
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Originally Posted by Pocket Player
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Originally Posted by princeplanet
Maybe to your ear they sound dated or corny, to mine it sounds like genius.
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its all about the Cheese ...
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Originally Posted by vintagelove
But pure Bebop wasn't really played for very long, it quickly morphed into several different forms. Some argue that no-one really plays pure bebop any more, anywhere, and haven't since 1953. Yet there have always been Swing bands, Gypsy Jazz or even Ragtime and Dixieland bands, and indeed they're still around today, with no signs of going anywhere.
It's funny how some styles become "classicised" in that way, and yet Bebop which continues to be the source for many aspiring Jazz soloists to drink from the cup of, is acknowledged but rarely played.
Bit like how Latin is essentially a "dead" language, yet still taught and used by many professions that like to hang on to a tradition that refers to Latin terminology.... or something....
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Originally Posted by Hep To The Jive
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My favorite is Nows the Time
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Originally Posted by Hep To The Jive
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[QUOTE=princeplanet;515906]
Here are 11 common Bop Heads played on guitar back to back. QUOTE]
Well done! I agree that the heads don't contain all the needed vocabulary but I think if one can play those heads to tempo, one should have the technique to play most of the bebop "vobab" one decides to learn. Don't you? Lot of technique in those heads....
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[QUOTE=MarkRhodes;516350]
Originally Posted by princeplanet
As you know, people have analysed Bird to death, but no-one has ever played just like him. You can't think like Bird, and nor should anyone aspire to that. Invent your own system after you learn the lines you love, which may be Parker lines, or maybe not.... I've learned my fair share of Bird, and have no regrets, but I could have learned McClean, or Cannonball lines, Woods, McPherson etc etc, and be equally happy, or even happier. Any one single bop influenced master can serve as a role model, Getz, Mobley, Miles, Wes, there's so many...
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[QUOTE=princeplanet;517724]
Originally Posted by MarkRhodes
Love Clifford Brown too.
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04-05-2015, 04:55 PM #290Dutchbopper Guest
Clifford is great too. I did his solo on "Joy Spring" a long time ago, so the video below is pretty old. I did not even have glasses at the time I had to slow the solo down a bit because bars 17-23 are impossibly fast on guitar. I dare anyone to play them on guitar in real time!
Still, this solo has some nice II-Vs that I isolated and slowed down later in the video. Highly recommded!
Regards,
DB
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Just added Yardbird Suite and Anthropology to my list. Yardbird Suite is my fave Bird's tune right now, it's less complicated but very catchy. And that's how I think good tunes should be, you can get all kind of crazy s&$T going in a solo. Donna Lee is still my least fav., I practice it obsessively, but hate it! Maybe I just love the chord changes and it keep me going.
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Originally Posted by Hep To The Jive
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Originally Posted by grahambop
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Again, it deepens your music to know the tunes that Parker's tunes came from. So Yardbird, according to me, is the changes to Lady Be Good on the outside and Nice Work if You Can Get It on the bridge. If you get tired of Donna Lee, make sure you know Indiana. The words are pretty good too. https://tomross1.bandcamp.com/track/indiana-in-india, a version in 7 beats.
A bit of perhaps useless history: Indiana is in F. Dixie people often goose the key up to Ab on the last chorus. That's why Donna Lee is in Ab!
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I just finished learning the repeating part of Donna Lee and I’m enjoying it so much. Though I can only play it at a fraction of its original tempo plus having a few mistakes here and there as I’m still a beginner.
Another song I enjoy is “I’ll see you in my dreams” by Django. I guess what I’m looking for is a song with lots of picking.
Any suggestion would help, much appreciated if you include the sheet or some kind of tutorial.
Thank you
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Four Brothers?
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other Charlie Parker tunes like
Confirmation
Blues for Alice
Ornithology
others that come to mind:
Joy Spring
Four
Solar
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Originally Posted by Broyale
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The ironic part is that most if not all of the people on Broyale's list either were influenced by Charlie Parker or played with him. (For example, Miles)
It would seem to me that Broyale just does not know what he does not know.
There's a saying often attributed to Elvin Bishop:" I've been young but you've never been old, so don't tell me what it's like." (Paraphrased)
Doug B
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Jerry Hahn has a good version of Joy Spring on his Moses record available on YT
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