Anyone selling a Borys B120?

**jzucker** · 04-22-2024, 07:48 AM

I can get a new one for $6k direct from Roger but the build is scheduled to finish in Nov and he's know to run late on build cycles. There's one on TGP for $5500 which seems a bit high for a used one and the guy only has 10 posts there so I'm a bit hesitant (particularly at a price so close to new).

Anyone selling one here? Or know someone personally selling one? There's a borys at guitarsnjazz. I think they want $6k for it....

**omphalopsychos** · 04-22-2024, 09:08 AM

Two on reverb. The one at gnj seems to be on hold. Unless you have a generous seller these tend to sell for about the same used as new (skip the wait premium).

**ccroft** · 04-22-2024, 09:23 PM

I tried to find a used one for about a year back in '20/'21. I'm in Canada though. During that time I saw 2 come and go on Reverb. Like real quick. Reverb gives me the willies, especially with cross-border. I was also on Joe V's watch list for all that time. I did get notified of one but it was waaay too late.

I finally decided I'd be better off on Roger's wait list. I ordered in Jan '22. He said he'd ship Sept/Nov, and it got here Dec 2nd. Probably the same yearly batch he'd be working on now. The beauty is I got the details I prefer instead of whatever I could get my hands on, which was nothing.

Best of luck JZ!

**jzucker** · 04-22-2024, 10:09 PM

Originally Posted by ccroft

I tried to find a used one for about a year back in '20/'21. I'm in Canada though. During that time I saw 2 come and go on Reverb. Like real quick. Reverb gives me the willies, especially with cross-border. I was also on Joe V's watch list for all that time. I did get notified of one but it was waaay too late.

I finally decided I'd be better off on Roger's wait list. I ordered in Jan '22. He said he'd ship Sept/Nov, and it got here Dec 2nd. Probably the same yearly batch he'd be working on now. The beauty is I got the details I prefer instead of whatever I could get my hands on, which was nothing.

Best of luck JZ!

Did it need any work when you got it?

**sgcim** · 04-22-2024, 10:21 PM

Originally Posted by omphalopsychos

Two on reverb. The one at gnj seems to be on hold. Unless you have a generous seller these tend to sell for about the same used as new (skip the wait premium).

That one on G&J is a B-420, which is his equivalent of a D'A New Yorker. There's some cosmetic damage on it (I don't know how severe), but someone;s getting a great deal if it;s okay. Even ten years ago they were going for 10K.
The B-120 is a laminate,

**nyc chaz** · 04-23-2024, 11:42 AM

I would not pay 6k for that Borys.Looking at the pictures,it has severe checking and a bunch of dents.

**JakePearlman** · 04-23-2024, 04:27 PM

It looks like one just arrived at archtop.com. It hasn't been posted yet though. Says it's from ca. 1990.

**ccroft** · 04-24-2024, 01:48 AM

Originally Posted by jzucker

Did it need any work when you got it?

Mine played great right out of the case. I may not be as picky as some, but I for sure know when a guitar could use some attention. I waited about 5 or 6 months before doing anything. As a newborn I wanted to let it mature a bit, get used to the new climate, and get to know it better.

Then I took it to my guy to dial it in for me. We put TI Swings on, a gauge heavier than what it came with. He added little nubs to the control knobs so I can tell how they're set by feel. Put ebony buttons on, probably because I played cello as a kid and that just looks right to me with f-holes.

It got a new nut. It was slightly proud of the neck on the bass side. Nothing I could feel while playing, but... you know how it is. My guy said that nut was bullshit, but I was OK with it for a half year. That's the only thing we could find that was 'incorrect'.

I couldn't be happier with mine. I only pick up the others out of curiosity after not touching them for a month or 3.

**jzucker** · 04-26-2024, 08:27 AM

thanks everyone for your input. I've decided to go in a different direction for now. Hopefully this thread will be helpful to others.

**ccroft** · 04-27-2024, 01:22 AM

Sooo...Kramer? BC Rich? I look forward to your exploits!

**jzucker** · 04-27-2024, 07:57 AM

Originally Posted by ccroft

Sooo...Kramer? BC Rich? I look forward to your exploits!

I ended up finding a PM120. I really love the quality (and sound) of the high end japanese archtops and really missed having a pm120. It sort of bridges the gap between something like a sadowsky semihollow and a full size archtop.