-
Originally Posted by pcsanwald
-
09-01-2017 04:22 PM
-
Originally Posted by jzucker
-
no problem paul. Sometimes these companies just amaze me, like finale trying to get you to pay $150 because they upgraded to 64 bit executable and refactored their code for it to be easier to support and make upgrades. My response was:
Make some functionality improvements and prove you did what you claim and then I'll pay the upgrade fee.
-
As a composer i care only about one thing music.
sseing, some product bashing re Musecore try to remember its free if you dont like it dont use it, but dont bleat.
Dorico is a Steinberg product, so bound to be a $$$ with all the the relevant marketing BS & endless promo. and upgrades.
Dorico only getting chord symbols later is a telltale sign, not designed by musicians, as that would be
numero uno for me.
-
i didn't see anyone bashing musescore
-
Originally Posted by Durban
-
Originally Posted by mhch
-
For anyone interested check out my staccato section string soundfonts. I made them from the 'VCO' samples;
Login - DropboxLast edited by Stevebol; 09-06-2017 at 04:59 PM.
-
Originally Posted by Durban
they even kept a public development diary:
Development diary, part six | MAKING NOTES
and have consistently done polls to try and prioritize features like playback. It's an extremely experienced team, they clearly care deeply about engraving software (at a point in history where very few people do), and I have a lot of respect for what they are trying to do.
I've never used Dorico and have no opinion about their current software, although I do plan to give it a try once it's further along and there are less bugs and more features. But, I've followed their development since Daniel left Sibelius and have been rooting for them the whole way.
-
Originally Posted by PMB
If I had to theorize why, I'd hypothesize their target market is not people making charts for pop/rock, because no one is going to pay their asking price to make chord charts. If I were in their shoes, I'd be prioritizing things for target market at all costs, and that's likely to be educational institutions purchasing engraving software for their students to use, and not jazz musicians making charts.
I'm not saying that we, as jazz musicians making charts, should just suck it up and buy this software anyways. What I am saying is that I can definitely see how something like chord symbols doesn't need to be on the "must be done before shipping" list.
-
It's rare nowadays to find a classical musician who doesn't dabble in popular music in some way. It's extremely myopic to ignore those concerns and doesn't bode well for future updates. Additionally, i see ZERO point in migrating from one corporate entity (either finale or sibelius) to another one and if you are starting from scratch, why would you consider something with 75% of the functionality of the other two?!?
At least musescore is open source so I would think the continued support would grow and not be encumbered by things like having to get people to pay for useless features in order to continue to pay the salaries of marketing and support staff...
Originally Posted by pcsanwald
-
Originally Posted by jzucker
My personal reason for caring about Dorico at all is because I see Steinberg investing in engraving software in a day and age when no one else is. And as a musician/composer who is profoundly dependent on notation, I really just want to support that.
Nothing against muse score and I'm sure it's awesome, a good friend of mine who's a great arranger swears by it. I just think that competition is good for this (seemingly shrinking) market and I'm happy that someone (in this case steinberg) is willing to invest in moving it forward.
-
I downloaded the Dorico 30-day demo, which included a promising-looking sound library. Couldn't get the demos to play. Did some routine Mac stuff like permissions repair... no luck. Then I tried importing an xml file from Sibelius 7. Same playback issues: delayed start, stops and stutters. Music .xml export/import is usually a bit glitchy between the other notation programs, but this was drastic.
I wonder if they pushed this thing out the door before it was ready. Maybe the big shots at Steinberg (or Yamaha, parent company) got tired of waiting. Regardless, I wish them the best. Meanwhile, I'll stick with Sibelius 7.1 (which I reluctantly admit is damn good) and MuseScore which I occasionally need to use, and totally support for their open-source ethos.
-
About a week into a 30 day trial on an old Mac. Running fine as far as I've tested it.
Big learning curve but there are good videos and a very out of date incomplete manual.
They just hired a manual staffer to fix that situation sometime soon.
At the same time they are very available and helpful in their forum and the Facebook group.
From what I can see, it has greater flexibility on some of the things it does but has some gaps on fundamentals.
They are wanting to get it right before releasing those features.
Various types of transposition, find and replace editing are features that I use heavily on Finale for an educational project.
Dorico has a create custom key signature function that was easy to use unlike Finale's which I could never figure out.
Will check back in further along.
Getting hung up on rhythms when transcribing
Today, 11:59 AM in Ear Training, Transcribing & Reading