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In fact, San Getz was smooth jazz, just not Smooth Jazz.
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11-19-2021 04:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Lobomov
As far as Stan Getz, he did play "smooth", and some of his contemporaries might have criticized him for being too pop or not being hardcore, but he always played with skill and energy. Even up to the end of his life he could bring the goods, and did.
If Kenny wants to use him as a model, fine with me. I don't find the song he recorded over Louis Armstrong to be sacriligious, I just don't find that type of performance the least bit interesting. It doesn't enhance the original one bit, in fact distracts from it.
If we're going to do posthumous duets, the one that Natalie did with her dad Nat King Cole was pretty good, and the Beatles songs they produced after John had left us were OK. If there's a dialogue there, that's one thing, but to noodle over someone else's work is not interesting to me.
Come to think of it there was an album with someone rapping over Miles a couple of years ago. I gave it one listen.
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Roller skating chops...
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Believe it or nuts, someone actually made a documentary on Kenny G, and what his standing is in the minds of a bunch of people. I couldn't care less about the guy, but I hope the director interviewed PM, just for entertainment value.
The blurb in the Times mentions some PC crap about KG's misappropriation of cultural blah, blah blah...
It's going to be in theaters next month.
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Originally Posted by Lobomov
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In the 1980s there were Chick Corea, Weather Report and Pat Metheny tunes played on the smooth jazz radio stations... the tune Spain for example.
What is smooth jazz? It was determined by the smooth jazz radio stations, they created the genre by what they selected for the format.
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Wow... you guys are still letting Kenny "impact" you??? LOL
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"Are you really going to try to tell me that Kind of Blue was a bigger cultural phenomenon/experience than Sgt. Pepper? " Lobomov
I think we're all probably on the same page and are, perhaps, just quibbling about terms. From a Sociological perspective, Lobo's above comment is certainly correct based on numbers but it cannot be true from an artistic perspective since comparing the Beatles to Miles would be unfair to both since the genres are so different and reflect a different audience.
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I think smooth jazz has its origins at that time in the mid-sixties, after the British Invasion, when jazz was no longer hip and record companies tried to compete with pop by releasing albums of ingratiating covers of contemporary hit songs. As examples, the three albums Wes Montgomery made for A&M are memorable, if nothing else. Scott Janow wrote of them, "In most cases the guitarist did little more than play the melody, using his distinctive octaves, and it was enough to make him saleable. Of his three A&M recordings, A Day in the Life (the first one) was by far the best and, although the jazz content is almost nil, the results are pleasing as background music." Jazz became the background to lifestyles, music that was not listened to but heard.
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Originally Posted by Litterick
There were some mediocre tracks, but Wes was still Wes, and his musicality came through on everything he did.
Simplicity does not equal simple mindedness.
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No it does not show he is a jerk. It shows he is a critic who has an opinion, one I believe has merit but with which you disagree.
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Originally Posted by Litterick
Hi, L,
Well said! As a young R@B/Soul guitarist in the 60's, those albums were my first exposure to Jazz guitar. They had a real impact allowing me to see other possibilities with the instrument. They featured world-class musicians(Herbie Hancock, Ron Carter, Grady Tate, Ray Barretto) and the album was No. 1 on the Billboard Jazz chart. And, all the musicians took home a nice paycheck for their services. Remember, before his success, Montgomery was a club guitarist who worked as a welder during the day to feed his large family. He had to know how to play music people liked if he wanted to keep his night gig and "A Day in the Life" was a prime example although he had been recording since 1959. So, unless Jazz will be forever destined to an elite listenership(as is Classical Opera), it must reach out to a wider audience for Jazz musicians to make a living playing the genre and it certainly has worked for Wes and Kenny. The life of the starving artist is a sad one, indeed.
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Originally Posted by Doctor Jeff
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Originally Posted by 2bornot2bop
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Speaking of non-jazz Benson, this two-chord jam, can anyone else do it like that! It's not easy to keep it interesting over two chords, he kills it. And that voice! (Guita solo starts around 2:30, voice starts near the beginning).
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But does Kenny G’s music have any soul? Benson’s music and the other examples of commercially successful pop-jazz do of course. Kenny just oozes whitebread non-swinging elevator music sludge
soul here is short hand to having some foot in the various African musical traditions - hard to claim that for Kenny, who is more of a Pat Boone type character
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Yeah, sure, so we're facing the end of civilization and Kenny G. too.
But I want to now why the entertainment industry hasn't yet provided us with a
high-quality roller girl film to Leon Russell's "Queen of the Roller Derby."
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Originally Posted by rabbit
I hear NASA is sending up a rocket to intercept Kenny G's new project and prevent it impacting us.
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Originally Posted by Litterick
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11-24-2021, 09:51 AM #70Dutchbopper GuestOriginally Posted by grahambop
DB
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Originally Posted by Dutchbopper
Hi, D,
Funny. However, that's the technique/gimmick of "circular breathing" which I could never master as a saxophonist. However, G has taken it to the level of Barnum and Bailey . . . however, in response to BWV . . . nothing stinks worse than Pat Boone . . . music's prime example of the "Peter Principle."
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Originally Posted by Dutchbopper
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Originally Posted by Dutchbopper
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Originally Posted by Dutchbopper
Not bad punk. Now try it with 3:
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Originally Posted by ccroft
Would Freud the Fraud call this "Oral Fixation????"
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