Always on the lookout for more Barry Galbraith

**wintermoon** · 02-05-2021, 07:39 PM

Originally Posted by sgcim

Those guys were the Larry Carlton, Steve Gadd, Chuck Rainey, Bob James of the 50s. I read Milt "The Judge" Hinton's autobiography. He said they played on close to a thousand recordings. I have some of that record from the web, but I never got the whole thing. Maybe Fresh Sound has it on CD...

I think it's on discogs on vinyl.
When Bass Line came out Milt did a masterclass, he was a great guy, I got to talk with him for awhile afterwards and he graciously signed a few posters of his photography, I gave a couple to friends but kept the famous shot of Billie Holiday in studio holding the jar of vodka listening to the playback of her last lp (and my favorite) Lady In Satin. It's been framed on my wall since then.

There's a cool shot of Barry in the book w/one of his Strombergs, iirc he doesn't say much about him other than they used to go to baseball games, he liked to wear flannel shirts, and he smoked too much. I wonder where those guitars ended up, maybe Stromberg expert Jim Speros knows if he's still around.

**curbucci** · 02-05-2021, 10:29 PM

Originally Posted by wintermoon

as a leader......

Wow! What a wonderful discovery! I appreciate you good folks turning me on to great music/artists.

**BickertRules** · 02-05-2021, 11:47 PM

That one used to be on Apple Music - beautiful playing - seems to be gone now...

Originally Posted by sgcim

Those guys were the Larry Carlton, Steve Gadd, Chuck Rainey, Bob James of the 50s. I read Milt "The Judge" Hinton's autobiography. He said they played on close to a thousand recordings. I have some of that record from the web, but I never got the whole thing. Maybe Fresh Sound has it on CD...

**pcjazz** · 02-06-2021, 12:04 AM

Originally Posted by jmgalich

The last one that's really hard to find is Aaron Sachs Quintette on Bethlehem, that has plenty of BG content. SGCIM might be able to comment more on this one.

YouTube Music has the album.

**sgcim** · 02-06-2021, 07:40 PM

Originally Posted by wintermoon

I think it's on discogs on vinyl.
When Bass Line came out Milt did a masterclass, he was a great guy, I got to talk with him for awhile afterwards and he graciously signed a few posters of his photography, I gave a couple to friends but kept the famous shot of Billie Holiday in studio holding the jar of vodka listening to the playback of her last lp (and my favorite) Lady In Satin. It's been framed on my wall since then.

There's a cool shot of Barry in the book w/one of his Strombergs, iirc he doesn't say much about him other than they used to go to baseball games, he liked to wear flannel shirts, and he smoked too much. I wonder where those guitars ended up, maybe Stromberg expert Jim Speros knows if he's still around.

Fresh Sound released it as a CD. From reading that Milt Hinton book, I realized the guy was truly a great person, besides being a great bass player/arranger.

**wintermoon** · 02-06-2021, 08:24 PM

Originally Posted by sgcim

Fresh Sound released it as a CD. From reading that Milt Hinton book, I realized the guy was truly a great person, besides being a great bass player/arranger.

yeah, I looked at the poster today and he signed it Milt Hinton '91 w/his familiar bass doodle, geez 30 yrs have gone by since that masterclass!

**neatomic** · 02-06-2021, 08:36 PM

not barry...but bucky...with zoot sims, milt hinton and buddy rich...

nirvana...nice later period date

og lp cover was-

cheers

**PickingMyEars** · 02-06-2021, 09:14 PM

same album?

If not, that's a GREAT album with Barry Galbraith as well. Great compin' too

**neatomic** · 02-06-2021, 09:25 PM

Originally Posted by PickingMyEars

same album?

yeah that's it...plus bonus tracks..fresh sound has everything!!!

cheers

**sgcim** · 02-09-2021, 09:39 PM

I was just listening to the Fresh Sound re-issue (probably illegal, like most of their re-issues, and some of them are needle drops!) of "The Music of John Carisi- Israel", and Galbraith is the featured soloist on Carisi's, "Barry's Tune", a great feature for guitar and big band that I'd love to play some day. There are TWO different versions of the tune!

The first one was done by John Carisi's Jazz Workshop group, and it doesn't have any pianist, so BG gets a lot of space to blow and comp on the tune. He really plays very fluently on this version, although it's a needle drop, so the sound isn't as good as it could be. The players are okay, but other than Urbie Green, BG is the best improviser in the group. This was recorded back in the mid 50s, so the sound is a little rough, but Barry is playing with a lot of drive on his solos.There's no piano, and you get to hear Barry comp like a pianist in the big band, as opposed to playing 4/4 rhythm on all the other tunes recorded by this group.

The second version on this record is the one I'm familiar with, that was recorded on the album "Into the Hot" presented by Gil Evans (but he doesn't have anything to do with the music), and it uses a larger band, filled with the NYC jazz heavyweights of the time, Phil Woods, Gene Quill,
Clark Terry, Brookmeyer etc..
This was not a needle drop, and has much better sound, but Barry doesn't sound as fluent as he did on the first version, and they give him a more treble sound.
The version is one minute longer than the first version, because Carisi adds a latin section that features a short but great Phil Woods solo. Barry's typical solo techniques are there, double-picked notes and long lines, but he doesn't sound as comfortable as the earlier version.
Still, both versions feature great music that is rarely heard these days.

**neatomic** · 02-09-2021, 10:28 PM

good stuff s...tho i'd imagine those "needle drops" are as much about lost masters and ancient methods of recording, as actual licensing legalities.... fs has made available much great stuff that might otherwise be even more totally forgotten!

here's the first version ...barry g features prominently...(tho intonation between players is real loose!!)

cheers

**sgcim** · 02-10-2021, 04:52 PM

Originally Posted by neatomic

good stuff s...tho i'd imagine those "needle drops" are as much about lost masters and ancient methods of recording, as actual licensing legalities.... fs has made available much great stuff that might otherwise be even more totally forgotten!

here's the first version ...barry g features prominently...(tho intonation between players is real loose!!)

cheers

I think you meant to post Barry's Tune, not Israel. Here's Barry's Tune- he was smokin' on this version:

The players are not the caliber of studio jazz players as the Into the Hot session, but Barry kills on this version.
As for legality, speak to survivors of the original artists, such as Jon Raney- he ain't gettin' a cent.

**sgcim** · 02-10-2021, 05:05 PM

Here's the equally great later version on "Into the Hot". The ensemble playing is at a much more in tune/higher level. Barry doesn't tear into it like the first version, but he's got a lot of noce melodic ideas on it. He uses his double note picking technique nicely on one idea.
That could be either Phil or Quill on the alto sax solo, because they sounded very similar back then.

**wintermoon** · 02-10-2021, 06:03 PM

Originally Posted by sgcim

Here's the equally great later version on "Into the Hot". The ensemble playing is at a much more in tune/higher level. Barry doesn't tear into it like the first version, but he's got a lot of noce melodic ideas on it. He uses his double note picking technique nicely on one idea.
That could be either Phil or Quill on the alto sax solo, because they sounded very similar back then.

that's Woods on that one, both versions are great imo

**sgcim** · 02-10-2021, 08:50 PM

Originally Posted by wintermoon

that's Woods on that one, both versions are great imo

There's one Johnny Richards album that was being passed around by every one on duped disc, where Quill sounded exactly like Phil on the whole album.
In the recently published Phil Woods autobiography, Phil tells the story about how Quill was playing in Mulligan's Concert Band, and he turned his head around too fast, and his reed went right into his eye!
They called Phil to sub for him, and Mulligan fired him the first night, telling him, "You crazy Irish MFs are all the same."
Then he re-hired him the next day!

**PhillyNash** · 03-17-2021, 01:02 AM

Originally Posted by sgcim

BTW, the Barry's Tune with a big band is from the album called "Into the Hot" that was "presented"by Gil Evans, although what he has to do with the album is a mystery to me.
Johnny Carisi wrote it and conducted it, and Barry plays the schlitz out of it.

Apparently Gil had been attracted to Impulse to work with Creed Taylor, but Taylor soon left to go to Verve (where Gil arranged several tracks on Kenny Burrell's must-have "Guitar Forms"). Story goes that Impulse had already prepared the artwork for "Into the Hot" and Gil owed Impulse an album. So he somehow got Impulse to go along with releasing an extremely odd pairing with one side of Johnny Carisi and the other side with Cecil Taylor's group (which is wonderful btw).

This is a great thread, thanks to all contributors!

Haven't seen a mention of Galbraith's work on Coleman Hawkins "The Hawk Flies High"...

**sgcim** · 03-17-2021, 06:44 PM

Originally Posted by PhillyNash

Apparently Gil had been attracted to Impulse to work with Creed Taylor, but Taylor soon left to go to Verve (where Gil arranged several tracks on Kenny Burrell's must-have "Guitar Forms"). Story goes that Impulse had already prepared the artwork for "Into the Hot" and Gil owed Impulse an album. So he somehow got Impulse to go along with releasing an extremely odd pairing with one side of Johnny Carisi and the other side with Cecil Taylor's group (which is wonderful btw).

This is a great thread, thanks to all contributors!

Haven't seen a mention of Galbraith's work on Coleman Hawkins "The Hawk Flies High"...

Thanks for the info!
It's always been a dream of mine to release an album with a picture of myself on the cover dressed in a suit and tie standing next to a music stand, and get credit for it without writing or playing a note!

**wintermoon** · 03-17-2021, 07:47 PM

"Haven't seen a mention of Galbraith's work on Coleman Hawkins "The Hawk Flies High"..."

Not in this thread but recently mentioned somewhere else on the forum

**achase4u** · 12-05-2022, 05:17 PM

Originally Posted by sgcim

I was just listening to the Fresh Sound re-issue (probably illegal, like most of their re-issues, and some of them are needle drops!) of "The Music of John Carisi- Israel", and Galbraith is the featured soloist on Carisi's, "Barry's Tune", a great feature for guitar and big band that I'd love to play some day. There are TWO different versions of the tune!

The first one was done by John Carisi's Jazz Workshop group, and it doesn't have any pianist, so BG gets a lot of space to blow and comp on the tune. He really plays very fluently on this version, although it's a needle drop, so the sound isn't as good as it could be. The players are okay, but other than Urbie Green, BG is the best improviser in the group. This was recorded back in the mid 50s, so the sound is a little rough, but Barry is playing with a lot of drive on his solos.There's no piano, and you get to hear Barry comp like a pianist in the big band, as opposed to playing 4/4 rhythm on all the other tunes recorded by this group.

The second version on this record is the one I'm familiar with, that was recorded on the album "Into the Hot" presented by Gil Evans (but he doesn't have anything to do with the music), and it uses a larger band, filled with the NYC jazz heavyweights of the time, Phil Woods, Gene Quill,
Clark Terry, Brookmeyer etc..
This was not a needle drop, and has much better sound, but Barry doesn't sound as fluent as he did on the first version, and they give him a more treble sound.
The version is one minute longer than the first version, because Carisi adds a latin section that features a short but great Phil Woods solo. Barry's typical solo techniques are there, double-picked notes and long lines, but he doesn't sound as comfortable as the earlier version.
Still, both versions feature great music that is rarely heard these days.

Very cool. An acquaintance in a local folk band who ran a non-profit venue nearby was Johnny Carisi's niece. Or great niece. She had heard lots of stories of Uncle Johnny up and moving to NY when he was a teenager or something. I sent her the tune "Barry's Tune" from Into the Hot. She thought it was cool.

I read in the liner notes of "into the hot" that they had to convince a balking-Barry to play that tune as he felt he hadn't been doing much "real jazz" as of late. I'd like to hear the other version you mention as well.

**achase4u** · 12-05-2022, 05:23 PM

Barry is my fav so I'm always looking for his recordings. I like the album by Willie Rodriguez called "Flatjacks". Some good B.G. content on there.

I just love the intro and chord solo he does on "Serenata". Flatjacks by Willie Rodriguez on Apple Music

Also, his work on Coleman Hawkins' Desafinado is great, next to Howie Collins. His solo on Desafinado just gets me, for whatever reason. Just love it.

**achase4u** · 12-07-2022, 04:30 PM

Actually - this is one of the cooler off the beaten path ones. Straight blues - John Lee Hooker "It Serves You Right to Suffer"

John Lee Hooker - vocals, guitar
Barry Galbraith - guitar
Milt Hinton - bass
Panama Francis - drums
William Wells - trombone on "Money"

https://open.spotify.com/album/7Fizh...QZGM7-y5QwXO7A

**achase4u** · 07-21-2023, 10:50 AM

Just discovered a good Barry album yesterday while listening to jazz radio in the car with a friend.

Anita O'Day "All The Sad Young Men"

Nice sounding record from R.V.G.'s Englewood Cliffs place. Lot's of good Barry stuff. Intro on "You Came A Long Way From St. Louis" and "The Ballad Of The Sad Young Men"

Great stuff. What touch and playing.

**PMB** · 07-21-2023, 07:30 PM

**sgcim** · 07-27-2024, 06:34 PM

As if there isn't enough Barry G. stuff mentioned here, I just got a set from Ebay on Avid Jazz called "Four Classic Albums by Sam Most, the Flute/clarinet player. I bought this because I had done a bunch of club dates with a keyboard player named Ronnie Woellner. He was playing some of the hippest subs behind me, and since he was playing left hand bass, it was as if he was arranging all the tunes.

The guy was pretty old, and I never got a chance to ask him about himself, because I was so busy discussing the subs he was using behind us. It turned out the guy was a top jazz trumpet player who had even won some Downbeat Polls in the 50s! He got into a car accident, and lost most of his teeth, so he switched to keyboard, and became a top arranger in NYC during the 50s.
One of the albums he arranged for was a Sam Most album in the set I just got from Ebay, for the Sam Most Sextette. He arranged the entire album for the instrumentation of Baritone Sax, Guitar, Flute/clarinet and rhythm, including Oscar Pettiford on bass.
The parts that he wrote for Barry G. on this record have him playing the middle part with the three horns, and it sounds great. As if that wasn't enough, he has Galbraith comping for the solos when the piano lays out, and also gives him a lot of blowing space on the record where Barry Plays his ass off!

The original record is called Sam Most Sextette- "I'm Nuts About the Most- Sam Most That is!"

As if that isn't enough, one of the other four records included in the four CD collection is "The Amazing Mr. Sam Most", and has a rhythm section of Jimmy Raney, Hall Overton, Addison Farmer on bass and Roy Haynes on Drums. I haven't gotten around to listening to it yet, but the liner notes say that Raney is featured on some tunes.

**nyc chaz** · 07-27-2024, 06:54 PM

Originally Posted by sgcim

As if there isn't enough Barry G. stuff mentioned here, I just got a set from Ebay on Avid Jazz called "Four Classic Albums by Sam Most, the Flute/clarinet player. I bought this because I had done a bunch of club dates with a keyboard player named Ronnie Woellner. He was playing some of the hippest subs behind me, and since he was playing left hand bass, it was as if he was arranging all the tunes.

The guy was pretty old, and I never got a chance to ask him about himself, because I was so busy discussing the subs he was using behind us. It turned out the guy was a top jazz trumpet player who had even won some Downbeat Polls in the 50s! He got into a car accident, and lost most of his teeth, so he switched to keyboard, and became a top arranger in NYC during the 50s.
One of the albums he arranged for was a Sam Most album in the set I just got from Ebay, for the Sam Most Sextette. He arranged the entire album for the instrumentation of Baritone Sax, Guitar, Flute/clarinet and rhythm, including Oscar Pettiford on bass.
The parts that he wrote for Barry G. on this record have him playing the middle part with the three horns, and it sounds great. As if that wasn't enough, he has Galbraith comping for the solos when the piano lays out, and also gives him a lot of blowing space on the record where Barry Plays his ass off!

The original record is called Sam Most Sextette- "I'm Nuts About the Most- Sam Most That is!"

As if that isn't enough, one of the other four records included in the four CD collection is "The Amazing Mr. Sam Most", and has a rhythm section of Jimmy Raney, Hall Overton, Addison Farmer on bass and Roy Haynes on Drums. I haven't gotten around to listening to it yet, but the liner notes say that Raney is featured on some tunes.

That album I'm Nuts about the Most is really a great album.I hadn't listened to it for years and last fall i dug it out and it was great hearing it again.Sam Most put out a bunch of fine albums and is one of those truly underrated jazz guys that deserved more love.