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Yes, the voice!!
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12-21-2020 07:27 PM
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Originally Posted by fep
That's just great. She's singing songs about gangsters..
I knew that song sounded familiar.
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Originally Posted by wintermoon
I have always believed that life is short and time limited. And, I have many interests outside of music so . . . yes, I want to listen to the best. However, contrary to what you might believe, my music collection is quite extensive ,as is my library, and if I'm going to spend some time with an artist, I want it to count. In fact, among my tastes in Philosophy, Music, and Literature, I could spend several lifetimes exploring, in depth, my interests. So, in the case of a musician, I'll give anyone a quick listen but if it's not there for me . . . what's the point? I'm not a teacher, I'm a consumer and devotee of Art.
Thanks for your honest feedback. I hope you believe my reply was honest as well.
Play live . . . Marinero
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Originally Posted by Marinero
And yet ... Somehow you find time to be on this forum discussing politics and making posts about Pat Boone??Last edited by Lobomov; 12-21-2020 at 09:36 PM.
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Originally Posted by BickertRules
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Originally Posted by Lobomov
I can't spend my whole life reading Schopenhauer and listening to Wagner . . .well, almost. Man needs diversion and . . . politics and the absurdity of PB certainly fill that bill. However, thanks for your concern. It's nice to know someone cares.
Play live . . . Marinero
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Originally Posted by sgcim
I'll try to be brief.
Paragraph 1: No Classical musician of any talent plays any piece "as written." The notes are merely a framework/pathway for the Artist's vision where dynamics, rubato, accent, nuance, and personality stamp the music. And, no one performs a piece of music exactly the same each time it is played. This is why, for example, Kempff and Rubenstein perform Beethoven in clearly different ways. This "stamp" of ownership is similar but not exactly the same as spontaneous improvisation.
Paragraph 2: Don't believe for a moment that when a Jazzer plays a set piece that he/she does not rely on his/her own musical cliches and plays everything as if it were fresh the first time. This is how we distinguish many players from the crowd and they ALL have them. Creating music spontaneously is the exception not the norm for most Jazzers. But, when it does happen, it is something special.
Paragraph 3: The Kessel/Williams statement does not hold water. Williams does not exactly play a performance piece the same each time and Kessel certainly does rely on his bag of cliches and perhaps, on occasion, throws in a new twist. No one is 100% mechanical; no one is 100% spontaneous. It defies human nature and how the mind works.
Finally, this whole concept of "total spontaneity" with Jazzers is overblown and, with reservation, largely mythological. A better way to visualize what we do on a professional level is that when we approach a piece of music we want to put OUR name on it. Period. And, contrary to Jazz mysticism, it relies heavily on cliches and ideas we've worked out in advance with hopefully a few lines thrown in from the gods.
Play live . . . Marinero
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Originally Posted by Litterick
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Originally Posted by Marinero
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Originally Posted by Marinero
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Originally Posted by Marinero
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Play live . . . Marinero
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^^^
That's about it. He didn't like to record jazz. He was a club musician.
You're not really famous until your music in is the Fallout series;
Of course Fallout: New Vegas was the best.
Ever think you're just stuck in a video game in another dimension somewhere..
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Back to Elenora, I say she gets a pass for singing a song about Pablo Escobar.
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I have never heard of this musician so I'm glad this thread was created.
She is also working on her first album as a songwriter, featuring her guitar and voice, and she will be touring North America with International Guitar Night in early 2022. The future is very bright for this multi-talented artist.
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It's an interesting debate whether someone is more singer or player if they do both. It's not whether they're better at one or the other. I think she's a singer.
Benson is a guitar player. BB King is a singer.
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Dang. Can you imagine practicing hours a day for years and years just to hear some dude on the internet come along and say you're really a singer? LOL
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Not to start an argument but that woman's a guitar player, no matter what else she can (or can't) do.
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Originally Posted by rrbasic
Clearly she doesn't play guitar just to supply rhythm for her singing. But of course you know that since the last time I checked your hearing was fine!
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Originally Posted by srlank
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OK, she's a guitar player who sings. Got it.
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Originally Posted by Stevebol
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Originally Posted by srlank
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I read this thread with some surprise, particularly the critical comments.
She's great, exudes positive energy, is a very accomplished player and singer, and generally brings a smile.
Who cares how modern or retro her style is, or whether she might play "too many" notes.
She is thoroughly original, seems to enjoy what she does, and it communicates to any listener who has open ears.
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Originally Posted by Stevebol
As a young boy growing up in Chicago in the 50's, I had the good fortune to hear quality live music every weekend with my father in the famous neighborhood bars throughout the city featuring the best musicians in the city-Jazz, R@B, R@R, and top 40. This brings me back to that wonderful time that is gone forever. Nice memories. Play live . . . MARINERO
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