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Is it me, or do you find it just wrong to use a pick when you're studying/learning something from "The Man"?
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10-18-2019 01:52 PM
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Not me, for sure. And I don’t have that kind of thumb at all.
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t's you
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Do you use a reed when copping a Bird line?
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I like to play with the thumb, but if Pat Martino can do a Wes tribute playing with a pick it's ok for mere mortals too!
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Even on octaves? They sound the "most different" to me, comparing pick to thumb playing.
The first time I used an octave pedal I thought "this is gonna be instant Wes, in a stomp box"... No. The effect sounds okay, but nothing like Wes. More like you're imitating an organ.
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Octaves sound better with thumb, no doubt, but it happens when using that technique, studying Wes or playin any other thing.
BTW, I fell in love to Wes thumb sound when I was a kid. I didn’t understood the language but that sound hooked me till today.
I can’t see any advantage in replicate the thumb use if it’s not natural to our technical approach. I love Wes but I play hybrid picking, it’s my way.
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Originally Posted by Cordalis
I don't either, nor the fingers, the playing ability. I could go on and on.
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Originally Posted by wintermoon
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Originally Posted by ronjazz
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Originally Posted by Alter
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Originally Posted by BigDaddyLoveHandles
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Originally Posted by Cordalis
Guys like Rit amaze me the way they can go so seamlessly between the two.
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Here's a lesson by Richie Zellon on how George Benson (who learned much from Wes) played octaves w thirds and other voicings. (George played octaves w 5ths too.)
George used a pick. (Though he can play w/out one too, thumb-style)
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I'd say if your playing & technique evolves into using your thumb it's ok ! But if it ends up being a gimmick, no.
MHO
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Originally Posted by MarkRhodes
Steve Laury can really play octaves as well.
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Originally Posted by Midnight Blues
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I wish if just this only thing would me my problem, I mean use thumb then problem solved. Unfortunately any time I try to learn and play along his solos I can not manage even close. It sounds completely wrong, or at least the very essence is gone...
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I don't see any point in using your thumb unless you can play what Wes played with it. Most of us find that pretty impossible. He could articulate single notes clearly at a rapid speed, which is a bit of a phenomenon.
But he was double-jointed or something, so I'd say trying to imitate him with a normal thumb would be a bit pointless. Could be wrong, of course :-)
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Originally Posted by Gabor
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Originally Posted by ragman1
I don't know if he was double jointed or not, but his hands were quite large and he had very long fingers.
I think it best, at least for me, to reserve using my thumb for his chord melodies and that's about it.
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His thumb was definitely double-jointed, or some other physical anomaly. It's well documented. What isn't so well documented is the simple fact that using your thumb will never turn you into Wes Montgomery :-)
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Originally Posted by ragman1
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