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    Hey,

    Iam very into modern Jazz Players like Gilad Hekselman, Mike Moreno, Jonathan Kreisberg and so on. ...

    But from time to time i like these old fashioned Guitar Players like Matt Munisteri, Pasquale Grasso, Felix Lemerle.

    I don't mean the old Guitar Heroes like Barney Kessel, Wes, Herb Ellis, Jim Hall - for me thats also modern Guitar Players, but .... older :-D

    I hope you know what i mean - Any guys out there i don't know which fit in these kind of category?

    Greets,

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    Duved Dunayevsky:



    Adrian

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    I would not think of those guys as old-fashioned or retro. How are you defining modern versus old-fashioned? The thing that leaps out at me from the lists you made is the use (or not) of pedals. But to me modern has more to do with musical content than equipment.

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    What i mean is early Swing guitar - 20s - 30s.

    Also John Pizzarelli, fit a little bit in this style i think.

    thank you in advance ;-)

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    I'm not a retro-style player, but I do occasionally dig up old publications, and give them an airing. Check out ArchtopGuitar.net – …jazz…classical…folk…plectrum…fingerstyle…

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    Swing guitar? The forum's own Jonathon Stout! Check him out on YouTube.

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    Pasquale Grasso is "old fashioned?!" Maybe "a long time ago, in a galaxy far, far away …" where they have floating cars and light sabers. That guy lives on another planet!

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    Quote Originally Posted by marcwhy
    That guy lives on another planet!
    ... which is called "Planet Bebop". Fantastic player, but from what I've heard of him, I doubt that Charlie Parker would have found him avantgarde.

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    A list of players active in straight-ahead/bop circles:

    James Chirillo
    Greg Ruggerio
    Felix Lemerle
    Pasquale Grasso
    Ofer Landsberg
    Harry Sankey
    David Archer
    Christian Miller
    Nick Costley-White
    Will Arnold-Forster
    Joe Cohn
    Roni Ben-Hur
    Jesse Van Ruller
    Martijn Van Iterson
    Jim Mullen
    Jack Wilkins
    Russell Malone
    Frank Vignola
    Howard Alden
    Ed Cherry
    John Pizzarelli
    Bruce Forman
    Dave Cliff
    Dave Warren

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    Quote Originally Posted by docsteve
    ... which is called "Planet Bebop". Fantastic player, but from what I've heard of him, I doubt that Charlie Parker would have found him avantgarde.
    Ha! Yeah, you're right, far from avant, but when his approach makes guitarists scratch their heads, I see that as more "new" than "old." "New" sound for me is more Chris Crocco, Mike Baggetta, etc.

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    Chris Flory might fit the bill - one of my favorite players



    Will

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    Quote Originally Posted by David B
    A list of players active in straight-ahead/bop circles:

    James Chirillo
    Greg Ruggerio
    Felix Lemerle
    Pasquale Grasso
    Ofer Landsberg
    Harry Sankey
    David Archer
    Christian Miller
    Nick Costley-White
    Will Arnold-Forster
    Joe Cohn
    Roni Ben-Hur
    Jesse Van Ruller
    Martijn Van Iterson
    Jim Mullen
    Jack Wilkins
    Russell Malone
    Frank Vignola
    Howard Alden
    Ed Cherry
    John Pizzarelli
    Bruce Forman
    Dave Cliff
    Dave Warren
    Those are straight ahead mostly, it's really not what OP had in mind though.

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    I also second Jonathan Stout. He's the most authentic swing player I've heard, and he sounds fresh.

    Id also add :
    Frank Vinigola
    Vinnie Raniolo
    More swing-rocking: Brian Setzer, Paul Pigat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WillMbCdn5
    Chris Flory might fit the bill - one of my favorite players



    Will
    Absolutly beautiful. This is what i was looking for ;-). Floating Pickup old Archtop, bright sound and nice swinging approach.

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    I found this nice Album of Howard Alden. I think this is the kind i was looking for. Really early Swing, singing and a very Acoustic Guitar Sound. Really nice Album in my opinion



    By the way: Why are many Album of Jazz Musician have just an really bad cover Art :-D.

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    Joe Cohn seems to be in the older category. Howard Alden does play a lot of old style swing, but he also plays modern styles when necessary. Not to mention banjo. He actually started out as a banjo player, and still plays it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cunamara
    Swing guitar? The forum's own Jonathon Stout! Check him out on YouTube.
    Wow fanstastic player. I really like his videos. Thank you for the tip

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    Quote Originally Posted by marcwhy
    Pasquale Grasso is "old fashioned?!" Maybe "a long time ago, in a galaxy far, far away …" where they have floating cars and light sabers. That guy lives on another planet!
    I think Pasquale plays really delibaretely with this kind of old fashion Swing and Bebop Style. When you listen to his records he try to use really old microphonic to get this really old retro sounding guitar sound. He is really inspired by Bud Powell, Chuck Wayne etc. His Guitar sound seems to be out of the 20s or something on the records.

    Pat Metheny said also that he really likes that Pasquale don't try to sound like him, with much effects and that he more try to keep the old stuff with fresh air (free translated out of my mind)

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    I’m not sure I’d describe Pasquale as retro... I mean he is in terms of the music he plays but in terms of what he can do on the guitar he feels very modern.

    Anyway, apologies if this duplicates any other posts haven’t read them.

    Swing/pre bop (but not Gypsy jazz)
    Munisteri
    James chirillo
    Our good chum Jonathan Stout
    Howard Alden
    Bucky Pizarelli
    Chris Flory
    I really like Joel Fass’s playing when you could find it. Sounded pretty old school to me.

    Bop
    Roni Ben Hur
    Ofer Landsberg (okay yeah the Barry school)
    Bruce Forman

    Loads more I’m sure I’ll remember.

    Anyway there are many players active on the London scene with an old school style. I could list them if anyone is interested.

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    Quote Originally Posted by christianm77
    I’m not sure I’d describe Pasquale as retro... I mean he is in terms of the music he plays but in terms of what he can do on the guitar he feels very modern.

    Anyway, apologies if this duplicates any other posts haven’t read them.

    Swing/pre bop (but not Gypsy jazz)
    Munisteri
    James chirillo
    Our good chum Jonathan Stout
    Howard Alden
    Bucky Pizarelli
    Chris Flory
    I really like Joel Fass’s playing when you could find it. Sounded pretty old school to me.

    Bop
    Roni Ben Hur
    Ofer Landsberg (okay yeah the Barry school)
    Bruce Forman

    Loads more I’m sure I’ll remember.

    Anyway there are many players active on the London scene with an old school style. I could list them if anyone is interested.
    Nice listing; I have seen Forman and Howard play together a few times. I have a DVD of a house concert with just the two of them and this illustrates the differences in their approach as you note above. The best part for me is when Forman is playing his bop lines over Howard chords \ walking bass lines.

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    I'm honored to be listed among the recommendations, but I can a couple more:

    Matt Munisteri
    Joel Paterson
    Jake Sanders
    Whit Smith (from the Hot Club of Cowtown)
    TK Smith

    All of these people have CD's you could look into. Joel is a chameleon that can do almost anything pre-1965 with authority. But there's definitely some pre-bop or proto-bop styling on his records with the Modern Sounds.) Whit has a Django influence, but I almost hear more George Barnes than anything else. See if you can track down his "Hot Jazz Caravan" Record. TK Smith, the great guitar builder, is an even better player. I had the honor of taking over his chair the Bonebrake Syncopators. You should check out their album, actually.

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    Rob, I somehow missed listening to your website examples but I've rectified that! Beautiful playing on those Smeck and 1931 plectrum tunes. Quite charming. Thanks for posting!

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    Pasquale Grasso
    I do not think he fits... I mean he looks like he fits, the tools he uses... but the whole aesthetics is absolutely modern..
    he is as modern as Gilad or Rotem.... the same mix of perfection and abstracy... only without delay.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AndyV
    Rob, I somehow missed listening to your website examples but I've rectified that! Beautiful playing on those Smeck and 1931 plectrum tunes. Quite charming. Thanks for posting!
    Thanks, Andy, but I'm no specialist. I jump around too much - too much fun to be found for those who care to look.

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    Frank Vignola is a great one. Just saw him at Blues Alley and it was outta sight.