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Originally Posted by wintermoon
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06-19-2019 06:00 PM
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Man that's tough. So many I hate to leave off. But if I had to carve it all down to 5....
-Bill Evans
-Chet Baker
-Miles
-Monk
-Aaron Parks
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Feels weird leaving off all the drummers. I am drawn so heavily to lush harmony and lyrical melody... but drummers really make the music dance in ways that harmony and melody can't. And if I'm being honest, I feel like drummers have influenced me more than any other instrument in the way they teach us to FEEL and swing. Art Blakey, Philly Jo, Elvin, Tony, Billy Higgins... good lord... there should really be a whole separate "which 5" thread just for discussing how important and influential the drummers in our tradition have been on us.
*I just realized I listed 5 drummers above. I didn't intend to start the 5 drummers list with that. They were just the first ones that came to mind. Which I guess means that's probably a good starting point. Though I might fight with myself to try and squeeze in one or two modern players to make things feel more balanced and authentic for me if I were going to make an official list.
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I can’t believe I forgot Vince Guaraldi! Had to go back and edit my list.
Last edited by zcostilla; 06-20-2019 at 12:21 AM. Reason: Spelling
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Good to see some love here for Hank Mobley , underrated player ( except amongst elite hipster cognoscenti )
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Only the famous ones seem to make it to those kinds of lists. I'm never gonna feel compelled to put "Coltrane" on such a list just because you're supposed to. What counts for me ultimately is what moves me. So many greats don't get the fame they deserve. A space of five is a little short but here goes. Two singers. One arranger - people like Quincy Jones are sorely missing in today's jazz.
Frank Sinatra
Anita O'Day
Clifford Brown
Mulgrew Miller
Quincy Jones
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Oh well, Sinatra isn‘t exactly unknown...
As far as I‘m concerned, naturally I started listening to the big names first because they were the ones that were most readily available. But guess what - they weren‘t big names for nothing.
You wouldn‘t know most of the people I listen to now, but I‘m too old to be moved by them in such a big way as I was moved by Dexter when I was nineteen.
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Louis Armstrong (trumpet)
Bobby Hackett (trumpet)
Art Van Damme (accordian)
Urbie Green (T-bone)
Toots Theilman (harmonica)
And.... sneaking these in under the obscure fusion rule
Chic Corea
Joe Zawinul
That was hard... I left off band leaders, composers, drummers... (et al)Last edited by geogio; 08-04-2019 at 07:05 AM.
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1. Keith Jarrett
2. Bill Evans
3. Duke Ellington
4. Monk
5. Wayne Shorter
Not necessarily in that order, except for Jarrett
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- Thelonious Monk - rhythmically, melodically and harmonically
- Miles Davis - say it with less
- John Coltrane - say it with more
- Jon Hassell* - creative use of technology can bring you to timbres never imagined
- Kenny Wheeler - gorgeous music with gorgeous tone
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It is interesting, how influence and like differ as Christian stated in the original post.
Maybe I am wrong, but it seems some answers do not differentiate, and list poster's heroes.
I really like drummers, DeJohnette, Tony Williams, Billy Higgins, Paul Motian, Dave Weckl, but their execution of rhythm is so different compared to either guitar solo or accompaniment I can not imagine how they could influence me (except "everything influences what we hear regularly")
Anyway here is my list:
Keith Jarrett
Bill Evans
Charlie Haden
Miles Davis
Dexter Gordon
Freddie Hubbard (sorry I can not leave him out)Last edited by Gabor; 07-23-2019 at 02:15 AM.
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Originally Posted by jbear
Last edited by Gabor; 07-25-2019 at 01:33 AM.
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Originally Posted by Irez87
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Non-guitar...hmm.... maybe I'll also do non-vocal, because that would be a big one as well...
Benny Goodman's clarinet
Harry Connick Jr's piano
Clarence Clemons' saxophone
Louis Armstrong's horn
...then I'd have to generically say ALL the big band horn sections from Benny Goodman, Glen Miller, and Tommy Dorsey
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Mose Allison
Keith Jarrett
Bill Evans
Thelonius Monk
Tom JobimLast edited by rhl-ferndale; 07-23-2019 at 12:48 PM. Reason: Correction
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Thelonious
Sonny
Miles
Steve (Swallow)
Gary (Burton)
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Stan Getz
Bill Evans
Joao Gilberto
Antonio Carlos Jobim
Nat Cole
Bill Evans seems to be a recurring name.
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Ron Carter
Bill Evans
Ahmad Jamal
Bobby Hutcherson
Charles Lloyd
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1. Hoagy Carmichael
2. Dizzy Gillespie
3. Nat King Cole
4. Count Basie
5. Donald Fagen
6th place:
Duke Ellington
Miles Davis
Herbie Hancock
Ella Fitzgerald
Victor Young
Wayne Shorter
George Gershwin
Jimmy Giuffre
Horace Silver
Arif Mardin
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I think a more interesting thread would be adding clips to go with the answer. Influence should be noticeable to some extent in one's playing. For example Rene Thomas and Jimmy Raney. Or Tal Farlow and Dan Axelrod. Just to name some very clear examples. I realise sometimes it is way more subtle than in the aformentioned cases but still. If there is no discernable effect on or trace in one's playing what exactly is the influence?
Seems to me most people here just state a few guys they like or admire or find inspirational. That's ok but that is not influence IMHO.
I mean I could state I am deeply influenced by Bird, Bill Evans and Coltrane and still sound like Jerry Garcia on a bad day. What is that influence worth?
DB
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Don Stiernberg. I play mandolin (classical, fiddle tunes) and sort of rediscovered jazz through Don.
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Originally Posted by DB's Jazz Guitar Blog
1 Miles Davis
2 Bill Evans
3 John Coltrane
4 Thelonious Monk
5 Dexter Gordon
6 Charlie Parker
7 Charles Mingus
8 Sonny Rollins
9 Stan Getz
10 Louis Armstrong
My wife (in this context a paraphrase for the average middle age pop consumer) could have made this list by random name dropping. These are just very well known names in jazz and for good reasons. We are all influenced by these guys one way or another.
MIke Moreno said "People don't know what influence is. They think they know, but they don't. You should be able to play the music created by the guys that inspired you." ..."Think about your influences. -Are they really an influence to you? Can everybody in this room get up and for 3hours, without repeating themselves, play the music by their favorite composers?" ..."You start by learning pop-tunes by ear. You got to make use of the inspiration to take it to the next level. I've been learning from what I've been listening to. Listening to records, copying note by note. Then I started to listen to music without guitar and for me that was the shit, much more than any jazz record made by a guitar player."
Before we move on, let's just stop and reflect over the fact that we are talking about non-guitar jazz musicians in this thread. I'm personally more influenced by the writers, arrangers and producers, rather than the performers. But rest assured I've been copying my guitar heroes note by note (and some players of other instruments too for that matter).
An artist inspires someone to pick up and learn to play an instrument. The music I like to listen to influences my perception of music, regardless if I plan to make it part of my repertoire or not. The more I play, the less time I spend listening to records/performances. The more time I spend composing, the less time I spend studying other peoples work. So I need to recharge every now and then. The cycle typically goes; 1. I look for inspiration and absorb material made by my influence and train my ears; 2. I express myself (practice/gig/compose/record); 3. Recharge/look for new influences/train ears, and so on.
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Sonny Rollins!
I like everything about the guy's playing. Intellectual yet accessible. Virtuosic, but only in pursuit of an idea - never to show off. His tone implies an ironic sense of humor, to my ear.
When I want to hear jazz, I listen to his recordings. This is who I would emulate.
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