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I had to post this since I really have not seen anybody else post Jazz that done like this. It was very exciting listening through my Bose Speakers - great sound.
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02-16-2014 07:42 PM
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Fantastic guitar player, but awful singing/yelling. A few Martino-style lines in there, I thought. I'm just left with the impression though that there is little genuine creative energy there - always following fashions rather than setting them. A classic session-players group. Mind you, he makes me sound like crap!
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The song, at least for me, had its grooving moments that moved me, others were not what I am used to.
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yeah ... fabulous !
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Good stuff.
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Lol. OOOooo... Really, someone should have told him to keep from leting it out. For sure, there are some great guitar playing moments, but man, I'm still laughing. Why can't people stick to what they're good at?
Originally Posted by Rob MacKillop
It did encourage me to post something with my own singing, though. Not Jazz, but it's there on YT now. Lol.
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Is his guitar held together with duct-tape?
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He sings better than Bob Dylan or Keith Jarrett for that matter. Those guys have been inflicting far far worse on us for a long time. A lot of guys get passes for a lot of things. He's allowed to have a crappy tone. He's Joe Pass. Or he's Allan Holdsworth. They are allowed to be unrehearsed. They are jazz musicians. Or, we don't talk about those ridiculous records he made in the 70's and the ridiculous clothes he wore. Or how he really wanted to sell out but nobody was buying.
Fareed is great. For just about any artist, we can probably pull up a video of something he or she has done that is far more cringe inducing. Ever heard John Lennon with his wife circa 1972?
When do we give people passes? I don't have an answer. But I think we should be honest and admit that without much rhyme or reason we give people passes all the f'n time.
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I like it all. Especially when he starts double-timing the vocal; it's very rhythmic and reminds me of tabla players. I think it adds to the overall effect, as do the long notes at the beginning. They're not particularly out of tune and IMHO, they're appropriate to the music.
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What's with the duct tape?? Is this a new sound modulation system I apparently have no clue about?
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It really wasn't my thing, a little to repetitive for my liking, but I cannot say anything really bad about it. His vocals didn't bother me either. Sometimes it is way to easy to be critical. Trust me...... I know, I find myself doing it all the time.
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Rob, you have been shown to have a strong Jazz pedigree, so please allow me to pick your brain. Fareed is of Pakistani and Chilean descent and incorporates a lot of "world music" into his songs, as I discovered when I sampled the CD from which this song came. So I would argue that there are points in the song where he gets away from what I call "Jazz," and there are points that feature some strong Jazz soloing. Originally Posted by Rob MacKillop
From non-Jazz specific point of view, would you not say that it is very creative to fuse funk, spiritual chants, and Jazz?
So when you say "genuine creative energy," I don't see what could be more creative than fusing different genres of music the way he does.
To borrow a phrase from one of our U.S. talk show hosts, "What say you?"
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I know where you are coming from. Originally Posted by Melodic Dreamer
When I first listened, there were portions of the song that I just had to "tolerate," but once he got to the soloing, more Jazzy part, I felt my heart beating with the strong bassline, and his driving solo with great tone just sucked me in for that portion of the song.
Poor bastard that I am, I'm just a sucker for relentless, driving Jazz songs with a strong rhythm section.
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Judging from the locations of the duct tape, I'm guessing they're cheap make-shift pick guards.
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I'm not Rob, of course. Originally Posted by AlsoRan
I had hard time believing some people can really enjoy a piece of bread with both jam/ jelly and peanut butter on it, but I really do think vodka and coca cola should remain just good friends.
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I grew up in the 60s and 70s, I don't mind vocals that are less than perfect. I actually like less than perfect vocals. they seem very real and organic.
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I liked it a lot, and recognize that he's purposely singing pitches that are using an eastern cultural tonality. Half the world doesn't divide the octave into 12 equal parts.
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I liked it.
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Pickguards? He's got duct tape on both sides of the tailpiece. Strange positions for makeshift pickguards.
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I wonder too. Julian Lage has also been sticking bits of tape on his guitar - It's a mystery that needs solving... Originally Posted by NSJ
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Fareed Haque, what a monster player!
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Maybe the duct tape are there to hide a few dings that made the guitar unsightly. I doubt it though.
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Haven't got a clue about Julian Lage and his bits of masking tape - but possibly Fareed worked out that certain spots of the guitar's top were causing feedback, and the duct tape helped stop the excess vibration? dunno, just guessing
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i like it plenty...i like trios...i like space in music (which trio format tends to favor)...i liked his vocals, don't care if his voice isn't 'legit', it was simply-honestly human & creative...LOVED the bassist & drummer...don't care whether or not it's considered legit 'jazz'...i like creativity regardless of genre, labels, idiom, classification, etc...i like surprise and kinda NOT knowing what, precisely, a musical effort 'is'...this music had lots of what tickles my ears.
Last edited by janepaints; 02-18-2014 at 12:43 PM. Reason: typo
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Well, the guitar playing is exceptional, and the song is pretty cool, although I got a little bored by the very repetitive structure.
I enjoyed the use of the vocals when he was doing the konnokal (sp?) syllable stuff. I didn't really care for the long tones. It sounded pretty rough. I like an untrained voice when it's doing speech stuff (think, Love Supreme), but don't really understand why they didn't hire a singer who could actually hit the pitches.
I don't buy the idea that it's supposed to be microtonal or Eastern, given my experience listening to that stuff. It's just out of tune.
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