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Originally Posted by MarkRhodes
Is anyone picking like this using round wounds? I just tried it this evening and couldn't stand the "scratching" sound. It would be nice if I could find some way to make it work so that I could use the technique even when playing my strat. Just curious.
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07-07-2014 05:37 PM
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It has been mentioned(here or somewhere else) that some(or all?) have changed picks to a fender medium. I have been using Stubby 2.0 picks. Will there be some sort of problem that will develop if I continue to use this pick?
Why did some change to the fender medium pick?
thanks all.
edh
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Originally Posted by edh
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@Mark, so using a Stubby won't hinder my playing down the road using the GB style? There is not any give in the Stubby.
Thanks for responding so quickly Mark.
edh
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Originally Posted by edh
You push through the string and come to rest on the string below it. A flexible pick has some give and makes it easier to do that. A heavy pick doesn't allow for that and forces the pick over the top of the string.
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Originally Posted by edh
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Okay, guys, yesterday I sent JC a 2-minute video of "what I'm up to" for his assessment. I heard back from him this morning. He said I've made a pretty good start and that I have got the basic shape pretty good too. Glad to hear that! He mentioned several finer points that he wants me to work on in the coming month and invited me to send another video in two weeks---by which point there should be marked improvement if I do what he suggests---and then another at the end of the month.
I'm psyched about that. I thought his comments were generous, encouraging, but by no means blowing smoke. I've got serious work to do yet. That, I don't mind.
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Mark : glad to hear that you're on the right track, have you started implementing the changes to your technique ? Do you already feel some improvement ?
BTW, I kept referring to philco's video in my posts when in fact I was thinking about setemupjoe's video :
Very helpful vid !
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Originally Posted by destinytot
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Originally Posted by Professor Jones
As for me, I'm implementing the changes. As JC says, it takes a while to grow into certain things. For example, he wants my pinky and ring fingers to curl in more, but suggests it will take awhile for the ring finger to curl in as much as needed. But don't rush. Give it the time it takes... So that's what I'm doing. I spread my practices out across the day too, so I actually pick up the guitar four or five different times a day, and I keep a pick in my pocket for when I'm out and about. I actually take a pick to bed with me and hold it as I fall asleep.
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Originally Posted by destinytot
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Hey, Mark C / setemupjoe,
One of the things JC told me to work on is something you do in your vid: talk about how the side of the curled pinky is what touches the pickguard. I wasn't curling my pinky in (at least not consistently) and now when I do, that's exactly what happens. I can tell when I've been playing for awhile when that little spot starts to overheat!
It's amazing what a small change can do....
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I have a quick question : which part of the hand should be touching the guitar ? This seems like an important point because it determines how you anchor your hand, which has a great effect on the picking motion. What I always did was having the interior part of my hand just above the wrist articulation rest just behind the bridge. Then when I re-watched setemupjoe's video, I noticed that he mentions that he has his pinky finger resting on the pickguard, and his wrist isn't touching the guitar at all. That intrigued me so I watched several videos of George Benson, and he does exactly the same thing. How do you guys do it ? Anchoring with the pinky seems to facilitate the up and down motion of the thumb and the index, which in turn allows you to pick with less wrist motion.
Edit : Mark, I saw your message after I posted mine. As we say in french "les grands esprits se rencontrent"Last edited by Nabil B; 07-09-2014 at 01:42 PM.
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Originally Posted by Professor Jones
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Hi guys,
It seems you are on the right track. I remember when I started with this technique some 20 years ago I experimented with how to place my pinkie. Straight or curled? Everything felt awkward to me at the beginning. Curling the pinkie allows the last knuckle of the pinkie (closest to the fingertip) to become a type of fulcrum that the hand can use as a reference point. As I say in my video it's not tied down to any one spot on the pickguard.
My main suggestion is to play lines SLOWLY across all six strings to get a feel for how the hand stretches and retracts across the strings. Don't think about speed. This isn't about speed, it's about accuracy. Playing fast is only a byproduct of learning to play accurately.
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[QUOTE=setemupjoe;440962]Hi guys,
It seems you are on the right track. I remember when I started with this technique some 20 years ago I experimented with how to place my pinkie. Straight or curled? Everything felt awkward to me at the beginning. Curling the pinkie allows the last knuckle of the pinkie (closest to the fingertip) to become a type of fulcrum that the hand can use as a reference point. As I say in my video it's not tied down to any one spot on the pickguard.
My main suggestion is to play lines SLOWLY across all six strings to get a feel for how the hand stretches and retracts across the strings.
Don't think about speed. This isn't about speed, it's about accuracy. Playing fast is only a byproduct of learning to play accurately.
Your presence here is causing me great pain. I am "disagreeable" by nature. I've yet to find anything, in any of your posts that I can disagree with. Please, keep trying for me.
But, in all seriousness, I really appreciate your presence here.
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Originally Posted by setemupjoe
I remember maybe twenty years ago when my technique was sloppy and I didn't know what to do, I bought a video about picking. I can't remember who made it but one of the exercises was to play a two-octave major scale in C, starting at the 8th fret, but play each note four time (-tremolo; 16th notes). The idea was to repeat this all the way down to the nut and back (-C major, then B, then Bb, and so on down to F, then fret by fret back to C.) It's one of the exercises I've used this week because it makes me play on all six strings. Also, tremolo picking is great for getting that "shake" thing going.
I've made some improvement and hope for more.
By the way, Mark, what about your second (or ring) finger? Do you curl it in as much as the pinky?
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Anybody use this technique with round wound strings?
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By the way, Mark, what about your second (or ring) finger? Do you curl it in as much as the pinky?[/QUOTE]
I think I explained this in my video so you may want to check back on that. Your fingers should curl in naturally. If you place your hand palm up in your lap and relax your hand your fingers should naturally curl in a little. That's how your hand should look resting on the pickguard.
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Originally Posted by setemupjoe
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Originally Posted by AlainJazz
Also what are your thoughts concerning alternate versus economy picking while using this technique.
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Originally Posted by AlainJazz
I'm not sure why anyone is worried about this. Most shredders angle their picks as much as Benson does, just in the opposite direction. Benson picking on roundwounds just produces the "heavy metal scrape", which I hate. It's pretty easy to just change the attack angle a bit to get a clearer tone.
I have no problem alt picking or gypsy picking with this tech. I've never learned economy picking on descending scales or arpeggios, but Dan Wilson seems to have no problem with it.
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I use it with round wound strings and I use it with my acoustic dreadnought. I can change the angle of my pick by either the position of my arm or how much I bend my thumb, that is how I adjust to round wound strings..
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Ok. Good to know that rounds can work too. Thanks!
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Hey Myles, that sounds great! Very nice playing too. So, obviously it is possible to get a good non-scratchy tone. I have to experiment a bit with the pick angle I guess. Thanks for posting the clip.
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