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Originally Posted by Richb
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05-23-2011 02:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Bill C
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Originally Posted by Richb
Hmmmmm....This all sounds like an over simplification of individual styles that have evolved and formed as a true evolutionary phenomenon. To lump these players into being "the new style", to me, is a gross generalization. They each have there own influences and criteria for making "jazz".
IMO, todays modern jazz is a natural musical blossoming that encompasses a plethora of genres, styles and influences, while still respecting jazz's past and it's language.
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Melody - My experience on the internetwürks so far indicates that the true meaning of "melody" is "plays shit I like".
That is an incorrect definition of "melody".
(Garzone's Triadic concept, octave displacement, various math-derived concepts) is working out well for him and getting him gigs.[/quote]
"math derived" confirms a lack of melody.
I alway draw a distinction between "lines" (no matter how hip, cool, bitchin', smoking) and melody. Nothing wrong with "lines", though I prefer melody, but there IS a distinct difference between lines vs melody, as in say Pat Martino & Joe Diorio as opposed to Jim Hall & Wes.Last edited by whiskey02; 05-23-2011 at 02:30 PM.
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Originally Posted by whiskey02
Originally Posted by whiskey02
Originally Posted by whiskey02
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I play a strat, and I love it. I guess it depends on what tone/sound YOU like...sounds just fine to me I put 11's on mine though (strings) most ppl i know use 10's.
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Mike Stern and a 1970's strat with Peavey amps!
Also, speaking of Lorne Lofsky I saw him with a trio almost 20 years ago in Toronto at the Top O' The Senator club. He was playing the Ibanez at the time. I forget what amp he had but he was amazing.
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Originally Posted by Spirit59
I think you and I have more in common than not.
1) Yes, I did miss your point; I understand better now what you were saying.
2) I'm neither above nor beneath making bold statements lol - it is the internet after all! But seriously, I'm not "throwing out" players who build off this type of material, and there are times when I really dig hearing it, but I never tire of "melody" because ...
3) Melody is more lyrical and narrative than math derived lines. I failed to define what I consider the word melody or melodic to be, but you summed up exactly what I listen for in music and strive to put into my playing with those two words.
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So,we can say ,many people play Jazz on a Strat.
One question about strings.
Normaly I used 10´´ inch strings,but the most professional Jazzguitarmen,plays always with an inch more the 11'.
at that moment I Have put on my strat rotosound strings ,inch 10´,but the sensation is more like 11 inch strings.
What did they think are the best strings and what kind of inch to play Jazz with a strat?
With the Dean Markley strings it is easier to play chords,but not so well for play melodies.Rotosound strings on a strat ,Makes really good Jazz sound.
Anyone used software,s with his strat. I used my UX1 interface with Podfarm sofware?
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Since my archtop was busted for awhile I've used an ibanez rx for classic and new orleans jazz as well as more fusion and latin stuff. It's kind of like a strat but my friend gave it to me (it's got a whammy bar too!). I put on 13 or 14 Thomasticks and use a fender deluxe with a bit of amp distortion so it sounds a little like a fuzzy organ when you do volume swells. Without a little distortion the tone lacks character unlike with an archtop.
A lot of folks seem to use a tele instead of a strat but I definitely like playing a strat more.
In terms of software, I do want to make a L5S semi-hollowbody warmoth guitar with a midi piezo pickup but haven't done that yet.
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Originally Posted by Quendit
Since chords are such an important part of jazz playing, I like the benefits of tone/intonation that a wound 3rd gives me. I leave the bending to the "blooze" guys.
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