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Can't forget Elmore James. Zappa once said of him, "He played the same slide lick in every song but I always felt like he meant it." His voice gives me chills. (The best kind.)
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02-19-2020 11:55 AM
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Another big inspiration of the Allmans
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Originally Posted by cosmic gumbo
Interesting to hear what the Allmans took from this recording and also what they added. (Their rhythm section was on another level.)
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Smokestack Lightnin'! Howlin' Wolf never seen this one coming........
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I was waiting in an office this morning and watched a Cornell Dupree video on my phone. In it, he said he was very influenced by country music when growing up and that it's an important part of his style. (For those unfamiliar with the name, Cornell Dupree played on over 2,500 sessions--King Curtis, Aretha Franklin, Paul Simon, Joe Cocker, hundreds of others-- and is thought of primarily as an R&B guitarist.) Here's a taste from the video, "Rainy Night In Georgia."
Anyway, later in the video he says he doesn't think there's much difference between country music and blues.
I thought of this song, covered by greats from both camps:
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02-21-2020, 04:48 PM #133joelf GuestOriginally Posted by MarkRhodes
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cornell dupree was big influence on early hendrix...they played together backing up some r&b greats like king curtis and percy sledge
here's cornell with his guild starfire next to jimi
near his end, cornell had severe respiratory problems and would play on stage with an oxygen tank!!
cheers
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Blind Willie Johnson. What can you say?
Electric or "slick" blues ultimately just sucked the essence right out of the thang, IMO.
Ry does it good.
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Of course, Ryland was another big influence on the Allmans, and a big influence on Duane's slide playing. By listening to Ry's slide on Taj's cover of this tune, Ry taught Duane exactly how to approach it.
*Correct info by Neatomic credits Jesse Edwin Davis as slide on this cut, sorry for my misinformation.
Last edited by cosmic gumbo; 02-23-2020 at 03:28 AM.
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Originally Posted by neatomic
The hit single version:
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Originally Posted by cosmic gumbo
like i said love'm all..but gotta give jesse ed davis his due...he was a native american, and had a hard short career and life...but he played with many greats..he was a fave of clapton, hari and john lennon too
here he is playing slide on different track from that lp..with (session great) bill boatman on 2nd guitar..ry's not on this
jesse with heavy friends
cheers
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but, here is ry cooder rippin it with capt. beefheart/don van vliet...the producer called in ry...and gave him money to go out and buy an electric guitar...his first..he got a sonic blue strat...(still has!)
and here's the original...by the great robert pete williams...williams had been serving time for manslaughter in angola prison and was released based on his musical talent..various music biz people rallied for his parole
from the ^ utube clip
"Robert Pete Williams (born 1914), author of Grown So Ugly
Covered in 1967 by Captain Beefhart and his Magic Band (arrangement by Ry Cooder)
This cover was then recovered by The Black Keys in 2004
You can like best whichever version you want but Robert still did it first and just him and a guitar."
cheers
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One of my favorite early BB King songs, "You Upset Me, Baby." (The title is always given as "You Upset..." but when singing, BB says "You upsets me...")
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02-22-2020, 10:57 PM #142joelf GuestOriginally Posted by neatomic
Gives one lots of possibilities to think on...
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A little late to the party, but a few of my faves:
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Originally Posted by mr. beaumont
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Earl Coleman. W/ Miles and Gene Ammons.
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One of the greatest intros in Chicago blues, "That's Alright" by Jimmy Rogers.
(Jimmy recorded this song several times, so you may know the song but recall a slightly different version.)
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Yea... back home. Cool thread.
So someone said, all jazz has blues. I'll that that a little further, the consistent, or universal thread through all jazz styles... is the Blues.
So what is the blues?
just some existing thoughts, nothing new.
1) Blues is a Tonality, (not just a song form)
by tonality, I mean... not Functional harmony, unless you want to get into Subdominant Function.
2) Blues use metrical function...... typical maj/min functional harmony or linear harmonic structure etc... become flipped over. Instead of calling Blue Notes embellishments or color, with Blues, all the traditional functional theory becomes... embellishment and color.
3) The only somewhat traditional functional relationship... is the minor 3rd. So like the relative Minor of major relationship... or the relative Maj. or Min. that harmonic or melodic movement can still have functional movement.
4) Chord Patterns or vamps and grooves become repeating or loops... become Tonic. At least within periods of time.
Anyway... just some thoughts. dig all the posts.
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A few blues (and bluesy) things by the Rolling Stones.
The Stones with Muddy Waters
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Originally Posted by MarkRhodes
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02-23-2020, 03:25 PM #150joelf GuestOriginally Posted by arielcee
Rob MacKillop not feeling well.
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