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Yeah...it's infinitely more likely that Clapton simply felt outgunned in a spectacular way and suffered a case of dramatic "shrinkage" that made him want to disappear. As he and many other peers have stated many times, Hendrix's arrival shifted the very ground that hotshot Brit blues guitarists stood on.
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11-07-2018 06:25 PM
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Clapton - tasty, always on target with notes, technically very good, fine vocalist, excellent live performer.
Beck - skillful, uninteresting musically, technical, least important of this group.
Page - creative, flamboyant, musical, great synergy with band.
Hendrix - creative, interesting, flamboyant, exciting performer, technologically advanced.
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I don't want this to sound like I am picking on you, but of these four Beck is the only one that truly ventured into jazz with his own brand of jazz fusion. It is ironic to me that on a jazz guitar forum there have been people that have commented that Beck is uninteresting or boring. I don't hear it that way. If I do find him boring it is when he isn't playing his jazz fusion stuff.
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Originally Posted by lammie200
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Originally Posted by Kirk Garrett
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Originally Posted by lammie200
But anyway, to my ears, Beck has basically nothing to say. Whatever the genre.
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... a lack of discernible melody ...while wearing a sharkskin suit
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Originally Posted by lammie200
During the times I'm vegan, I avoid cheese all together. I rather have avocado spread than a vegan cheese on my toast.
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Jeff Beck had a very important album in the 90's, called Crazy Legs. It was a tribute to Cliff Gallup, who was his hero when he started playing. Of all Beck's albums that's the one I listened to the most.
Here's live:
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Originally Posted by Kirk Garrett
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First, I love all these guys. Jimi's solo on "Machine Gun" from the Band of Gypsys live at the Fillmore , New Years Eve, may be the most incredible "rock" solo ever recorded.
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Originally Posted by lammie200
Bonus points for dropping out of Berklee.
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FWIW, when Cream was assembled, it was considered a jazz band fronted by a blues guitarist. Baker and Bruce came from jazz.
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Originally Posted by Litterick
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Originally Posted by Hep To The Jive
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Originally Posted by Stringswinger
And TBH, being a jazz guitarist myself(some would disagree with that), I'd say the world doesn't really need another guitar player doing songs from old Broadway musicals on an archtop guitar with a single pickup.
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Originally Posted by Greentone
JohnLast edited by John A.; 11-10-2018 at 06:50 PM.
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I’m too young (I was going to add “too off the beaten track” except I recalled Jimi briefly attended high school here) to have heard Jimi live. I’ve heard Clapton a couple of times (nice pop music). No Page.
One of the best concerts I ever attended was Beck when he was touring with Jan Hammer (maybe the MO bass player was in the band too). This was a little after BxB. Hammer played Jeff into submission. Jeff finally just smiled and surrendered. Literally. Incredible musicianship.
I have to admit that, at the time, I didn’t understand what the big deal about Jimi was, although I really liked AATW.
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Originally Posted by John A.
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Originally Posted by Litterick
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Originally Posted by Litterick
John
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I usually don't dig these kind of things, but:
Hendrix: could be inconsistent, but my god when he was on, not sure anyone could be better. "Axis: Bold As Love" is my personal favorite album, and he plays great throughout, including that ringing, doublestop R&B kinda comping. Has anyone ever played an intro better than "little wing"? I think not. His comping on "Wait Until Tomorrow" is killing, and his comping on "up from the skies" makes me feel like I don't know how to play guitar. And his guitar solo on the title cut is just epic.
Page: I love Led Zeppelin as much as anyone, but Page was a much better acoustic guitarist than electric, fairly sloppy soloist (Black Mountain Side vs. Whole Lotta Love come to mind). My favorite zeppelin is the "how the west was won" re-issue, which I think is ridiculously locked in and grooving.
Clapton: A lot of people think "Crossroads" is one of the great blues/rock guitar solos ever, I tend to agree. Back on rmmgj, someone pointed out that clapton plays with virtually no swing whatsoever yet has near perfect time, which I think is true. His bluesbreakers and cream work was his peak as a guitarist, for me.
Beck: I'll be honest, I never listened to a lot of Jeff Beck other than "Blow By Blow". What should I listen to? I like him, but he seems like way more of a guitarist's guitarist than the other cats in this poll.
The two cats that are missing for me here are David Gilmour and Duane Allman, both of whom are supremely melodic soloists.
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To me, Jeff Beck is saying something here, still one of my favourite tracks:
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And of course Goodbye Porkpie Hat, it was this track that got me interested in jazz.
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