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    I have not played this song but I really like the changes and the melody so it should be a lot of fun to learn how to play it. This time I have put together 2 BIAB backing tracks. One is a medium tempo Bill Evans' Style and the other is a medium tempo Bossanova version.

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    Nicas' dream (Bossa Version) Nicas' Dream (Bossa Version).mp3 - File Shared from Box.net - Free Online File Storage

    have fun with this song!

    wiz

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    Not to steal Howie's thunder as he is doing a fine job this time round.
    If you fancy something a little quicker then this is the link


    The tempo is at about 190.

    Cheers

    Tom
    Last edited by oilywrag; 02-20-2012 at 03:39 PM.

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    As for guitar renditions, I'm quite partial to Kenny's version:


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    Here is my version. I might post another in a week or so if I get a better feel for the song.

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    Last edited by Kman; 05-09-2011 at 11:11 AM.

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    Nice. Another version?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kman
    Here is my version. I might post another in a week or so if I get a better feel for the song.

    Very mellow, very nice.

    Thanks for being so quick to post.

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    One more noteworthy...


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    Quote Originally Posted by Kman
    Here is my version. I might post another in a week or so if I get a better feel for the song.

    01 Track 01 3.mp3 - File Shared from Box.net - Free Online File Storage
    very nice Kman. nice lines, good time, good tone and nice reference back to the melody. This is good listening, thanks for sharing with us,

    wiz

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    Great Tune ... still. very nice Kman, really had a great feel. I'll check it out again and try and come up with something to improve on, but 1st listen was very cool, thanks.
    I've been playing too many doubles... but I made quick version last night. I tried to give the tune a hard latin feel... didn't quite happen. After I recorded and listened... I can now hear where I was trying to go... I have too many other videos i want to post.... Anyway it's still OK and if anyone want's me to make a video of possible analysis etc... let me know and I'll make quick post... Best Reg

    Last edited by Reg; 05-10-2011 at 11:33 AM.

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    Could someone hip me to why... my video isn't loading, my youtube site is Reg523... Flying Brian reloaded my last vid and showed me ... sorry I still don't have...Thanks Reg

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    Nice job Kman, I really like you minimalistic playing very melodic, thanks for posting

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    Reg, yes please post a Nica's Dream analysis if you have time. I always enjoy those videos.

    Thanks for the comments guys.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reg

    Amazing playing. I would love to hear it in higher quality without the webcam noise.

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    REG... as always your groove is in on helluva deep pocket. Love that cha-cha feel. Smokin' solo, too.

    Thanks!!

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    Reg, As usual great job, I really dig your Latin feel

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    Thanks for comments... The bridge was kinda.... well not quite the feel I was heard... need real drummer. Like the weak side Dom. pedal, on & of 2 and 4... but was not so hip to solo over. Anyway thanks and I'll make video either late tonight or tomorrow on possible analysis. I have triple today and tonight...
    I think I'm going to go back to my playing jazz standards thread and work on standard chord patterns, and how I comp. Start breaking down sections of tunes. Really dig into what changes(re-harms and subs) should be used with existing changes. Try and explain the difference between.... Thanks Reg

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    Sorry all, my recorder has a minor problem but should be working again by tomorrow. If possible, I will try to post something tomorrow. I'm hearing Bb minor and Db major sounds to use on this tune but that may sound too diatonic so my ear may tell me something else to try. I would also like to experiment with the medium bossa backing track. The song has such a great melody that playing around with the melody may be the best approach for me.

    wiz

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    Hello friends,

    I found the solution to my recorder problem (loose wire). This my version of Nicas' Dream, I really had a hard time with this one. the first chorus is me trying to comp and the other two choruses are me trying to improvise. Again, mostly by ear and primarily thinking about centering around Bb minor / Db major sounds. Comments are sincerely appreciated.

    http://www.box.net/shared/tb5pdj6v40

    wiz
    Last edited by wizard3739; 05-12-2011 at 02:01 PM.

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    Wiz, it's a hard song. I especially think the 1st and last sections are hard. Overall you seem to be rushing a little bit. I think you are feeling it at a faster tempo, so maybe you should try it faster. What you are playing seems fine, just work on that feel. Once you get in the groove a little more it will come together, but like I said it's a hard song. Good job. I like your comping ideas too.

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    Thanks Kman, I often get the feeling I am rushing, I will try your suggestion and speed it up a bit. I'm going to work on a Bossa version for next week, gotta wait unti Sunday afternoon because have a busy gig schedule untill Sunday. I love this thread, it is a great learning process.

    wiz
    Last edited by wizard3739; 05-13-2011 at 03:00 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kman
    Wiz, it's a hard song. I especially think the 1st and last sections are hard. Overall you seem to be rushing a little bit. I think you are feeling it at a faster tempo, so maybe you should try it faster. What you are playing seems fine, just work on that feel. Once you get in the groove a little more it will come together, but like I said it's a hard song. Good job. I like your comping ideas too.
    Why is it a hard song? I am a beginner so this is a genuine question. I liked your version of it btw.

    Des

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dazz
    Why is it a hard song? I am a beginner so this is a genuine question. I liked your version of it btw.

    Des

    For me it's hard playing over the minor/major7 chords. I don't play anything good over those sections. I don't encounter it very much in other tunes so I am not used to it. Of course Paul seems to have no trouble with it, so maybe it's just me.
    Last edited by Kman; 05-13-2011 at 09:36 AM.

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    Wiz good effort did you play this tune only by ear?
    Paul that was fantastic! enjoyed listening

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    Thanks Jay, yes mostly by ear but did analyze it a bit before trying to learn to play it. For some reason, this one was difficult for me. I really liked the melody and the changes are great to play on.

    wiz

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    Anyone care to share their analysis on this song?

    wiz

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    Hey Howie... sorry I forgot to post Nica's analysis...
    Tunes in the relative min. of Db, or Bb, right, bridge modulates to Db or relative maj. of Bb minor.

    I-maj7 / / bVII-maj7............. Modal interchange from nat. Min. to MM. I to bVII is stardard Chord Pattern thought of and heard as almost like one chord. Helps create harmonic movement, in this case Tonic to Sub-Dom. Horace spells out complete chords with melody and counter line, both MM.
    Bars 7 & 8 at first sound like Modal Interchange , but becomes II V of Gb or bVI of Bb..but sounds more like modulation to Gb, with the C7#9 being standard sub of standard bVI dom. chord and the Db9 being it's sub. followed by standard altered II V of Bb or I-, and in this tune being I-maj7.
    The bridge jumps to relative maj or Db with typical Dom. Pedal (Ab), the F- to Bb7b9 is II V of II, Horace usually played the Db or I chord instead of F-. Anyway makes the Bb7b9 feel more like a VI7 chord instead of a II V of V of V... the chord progression was and still is standard method to extend the Sub dom and Dom harmonic rhythm before resolving to Db or the tonic... very blue like. The E-7 to A7 is simple sub of V. The use of II becoming Dom is common with secondary and extended Dom. and with use of Modal interchange to change what type of Dom. chord one uses.


    * some notes on Dominant chords
    1) a dominant chord resolving, (going to) I chord has Dominant cadence.
    Ex. key of C...... G7 going to Cmaj7... V7 / Imaj7
    2) a dominant chord resolving to other chord than I, has Dominant resolution.(not Dom. cadence)
    Ex. key of C....dom. chord going to any chord besides C
    3) Secondary dominants resolve to Diatonic chords other than I.
    Ex. Key of C... a dom.7th going to any diatonic chord, (D-7, E-7, Fmaj7, G7, A-7, B-7b5. chords built on scale degrees from key of Cmaj.) other than Cmaj... being the I chord.
    4) Extended Dominants resolve to...a) secondary Doms. b) another extended dom. c) the related II- of another extended or secondary Dom. chord.
    Ex. A7, D7, G7, Cmaj7.... A7 is extendes Dom chord, D7 is secondary Dom chord, or V7 of V7, G7 is V7 of Imaj7 or Cmaj7
    B7, E7..... A7, D7...., G7. series of extended Dom., NO I chord
    B7, E-7..., A7, D-7..., G7. Extended Dominants with II-7 chords... No Ichord
    This is very typical jazz usage.
    Modal Interchange is a methodology used for chord substitution.
    Please ask any questions... about any of the above... hope helps Reg

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    Thanks Reg, good analysis. I alway learn something from your videos.

    wiz

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    Hey Sgreb... very cool. I always dig your playing, you always have that natural real feel of expression going on. Your not worried about anything except the music your playing... You did a great job, even with a pre recorded track... Like your use of blue notes on bridge... the trick to using blues over dominant pedals, in this tune the Ab pedal under the changes is to try and not resolve to the Db until the changes get there, or at least keep the tension feel until that Db. Your playing was great... just pointing out for others to understand how the concept works. One other small detail to help with your technique... be careful with your at rest left hand position, your wrist, palm and most of your fingers get pretty far out of position when not playing. I know there's showmanship...and it can be part of the energy used to help create feel... but might be affecting your playing, lots of movement. Please don't take my comments wrong, I totally dig your playing... just trying to help... best Reg

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    Sbreb, thanks for posting. You did some great stuff there. I wish more people would get involved with this thread.




    Reg, as always thanks for posting the analysis.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reg
    Hey Sgreb... very cool. I always dig your playing, you always have that natural real feel of expression going on. Your not worried about anything except the music your playing... You did a great job, even with a pre recorded track... Like your use of blue notes on bridge... the trick to using blues over dominant pedals, in this tune the Ab pedal under the changes is to try and not resolve to the Db until the changes get there, or at least keep the tension feel until that Db. Your playing was great... just pointing out for others to understand how the concept works. One other small detail to help with your technique... be careful with your at rest left hand position, your wrist, palm and most of your fingers get pretty far out of position when not playing. I know there's showmanship...and it can be part of the energy used to help create feel... but might be affecting your playing, lots of movement. Please don't take my comments wrong, I totally dig your playing... just trying to help... best Reg

    Hey Reg,

    Thanks for the constructive words. I totally appreciate and want the feedback.

    I know I have the flailing finger syndrome (it's actually better then it used to be, believe it or not). It might stem from my years of playing rockin' blues and funk...maybe.

    Thanks again!

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    Hey guys,

    I dont have a lot of time this week so here is a try at this tune playing only by ear, I didn't even look at the chords so there are a few wrong notes and also the melody is probably not correct as I did this also by ear.

    I really enjoy playing by ear its a whole different challenge.

    Well what I hear is MM sound on the A parts and a more major sound on the bridge with a small half tone modulation on the last part

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    Sgreb: Very nice groove and a good feel for the melody line. I enjoyed listening to your take on the tune. BTW, that guitar is very nice, what is the make?

    Jay: As always, a good listen with a lot of good connected lines, a good groove and a good tone.

    I love this thread, it seem that all of the people who participate here are dedicated guitarists, each with their own approach to the tunes we work on.

    wiz

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    Thanks Wiz,

    The guitar I'm playing is a Hofner Jazzica Special. A great handmade German guitar.

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    Wiz thanks,

    sgreb very nice take on it I really dig those pentatonic lines they give the improv so much color

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    Can't believe I've been too busy to sit down and play this tune. But I enjoy reading along and listening to you guys. You ALL sound great!

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    Jayx,

    Great stuff, especially considering you didn't even look at a chart!

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    I just wanted to say thanks to all you guys for posting your versions of Nica's Dream. I really enjoyed them all. It also made me realize how much work I have in front of me. But the journey is half the fun right? Looking forward to the next song. Thanks again you guys and have a great Memorial Day weekend!

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    great posts just gonna try this Nicas Dream which is an intriguing tune..my Modus Operandi....i know a guy who does transcriptions..i see Hank Mobleys solo with Art Blakey...he charges 50 cents a sheet..50 cents to transpose the whole thing to any key....as im more of a reader musician this method suits me...rather than try and improvise with my limited skills.. address is SAXSOLOS.COM