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Originally Posted by coyote-1
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06-15-2023 06:18 PM
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Originally Posted by coyote-1
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Originally Posted by John A.
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Originally Posted by Jimmy Smith
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Originally Posted by Bop Head
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Originally Posted by John A.
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Yea as Bob Head said... and Rick were talking about..... the "practice thing" about learning the guitar fretboard and how it mechanically works with voicings and the "12 key thing" ... it's kind of the thing you need to have done as a kid... like before you start playing jazz.
Because in the end you throw away all those lousy sounding voicings and boring voiceleading concepts. It's not what you actually play when playing jazz, or performing in a jazz style.
You can rhythmize the shit out most of those voicings etc... and your still going to sound like... shit.
Personally if your not a kid anymore... you need to spend your practice time practicing the good stuff... not being able to suck in 12 keys... I'm not joking. It's better to sound good... great... playing a few things and then try and transpose those things into other things. Tunes, chord patterns, rhythmic licks etc...
Obviously... not everyone etc... you do what you gotta do. Personally I hate sounding like shit...
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Originally Posted by pauln
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Originally Posted by Bop Head
On another forum someone attributed it to Charlie Parker. Ora's Chatbot GPT-7* attributed it to Dexter Gordon. Just now it attributed it to Louis Armstrong. I asked it again and it said Duke Ellington. Now you have found Monk and wonder about Dizzy. I'm expecting Prince and Madonna any day.
When a quote is attributed to numerous figures I tend to think the quote may be significant.
* by the way, don't fear the AI chatbots; I'm 2 and 0 breaking the ones I've played with (GPT 3.5 using language, GPT-7 using math)
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I started a gig one time and it was 60+ hours a week in the club for months. The guy who ran everything said you'll be tight in a month.
Once you develop perfect meter you don't lose it.
It wasn't a blues gig but I think blues is the most unforgiving when it comes to meter.
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Originally Posted by Cunamara
Seriously, that would be way too restrictive - only one note per chord or progression would work. Learning to count and play poly-rhythms can help too.
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Originally Posted by pauln
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Originally Posted by pauln
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Turns out a fair few things Bird was reported as saying he didn’t actually say…
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Originally Posted by Christian Miller
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Originally Posted by pauln
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Charlie Parker described bebop as ‘looking for the pretty notes’ in a 1949 Downbeat interview, as detailed here:
JazzProfiles: Charlie Parker - The 1949 Downbeat Interview
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Has anyone's rhythmic skills improved? Maybe even start taking those rhythmic patterns and expand the concept and start using them with Chord patterns, both harmonically and melodically.
Get past the notes "don't matter approach" and realize it's just opening another door for developing jazz skills.
The notes do matter once you have rhythmic skills... or where to play them.
I'm just curious if anyone has seen any improvement with rhythmic concepts improving their jazz performance skills.
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