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A jazz musician learns all his life and this also applies to those who already play at a fairly good level.
Verbal skirmishes lead nowhere.
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09-23-2021 01:40 AM
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I like playing of Dexter Gordon.:
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Jam ...great!!!
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Lionel -
I'm free at the moment so I'll explain it. I'm expecting nothing. On the other hand, one can't just guess at these things, the notes have to fit the harmonies, even if as an altered sound.
If we want nice, fluid, ongoing lines then just use C harmonic minor over the whole A section till the Fm/Bb7. That's simple, no one will argue with it.
The other thing is just use the Eb major scale - but you lose the significant flavour of the natural B.
But if we want some variation then it has to be done differently.
So: Cm - Fm
Cm = C harm, Cm pent, Cm blues, C mel.
Fm = Fm pent, Fm blues, F mel (not F harm because we're in Cm, not Fm).
Why Fm? Because Dm7b5 = Fm6.
Playing F melodic minor over G7 gives
G Ab Bb C D E F G
That's chord tones + b9, #9 and 13. That's a 13b9 sound, very modern.
So Fm over Dm7b5-G7b9 works. It also shares notes with C harmonic and melodic minors - plenty to make interesting lines with.
There are other options too. Fm is the ii of Bb7 so you could outline a Bb7 over that bar. That's a good dominant sound.
Or you could tritone the Bb7 and play E7b5. That implies B melodic minor if you want a more extreme outside sound.
Or you can use both the Fm and the Abm (Ab mel = G7alt) together.
So 'Cm - Fm' implies a great deal if you know what to look for. Making ongoing lines depends on the skill with which they're played.
In practice, of course, you just throw the whole thing in together as you wish.
This is a repeating loop of Cm - Dm7b5/G7b9
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Incidentally, you realise all this 'no scales, no modes' stuff is nonsense, don't you? Good!
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You can find a lot of interesting lessons for beginners on YouTube, search not only for guitarists ... e.g. piano lessons are great ...:
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There is my last take of Softly...playing modal on section "A" is a great option.
Hope you like it:
Box
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Originally Posted by kris
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Originally Posted by Lionelsax
Best
KrisLast edited by kris; 09-23-2021 at 02:12 PM.
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@ragman1 you think too much !
@kris I'm sorry for that I've got a bronchitis but it's your fault if I had to play this !
With this wonderful backing track !!!
If you don't try it you'll never know what pleasure means !
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Nice jazz playing Loinelsax!!!
What's a great backing track.This backing track is very encouraging to play.Thanks for the link.
This B.TR is one of the best I ever heard.
Thanks a Lot
Jazzingly
Kris
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Originally Posted by Lionelsax
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Originally Posted by ragman1
I am sorry if I am late !
Understand me ! I love playing music and I can't play Donna Lee !!!
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I've always appreciated your saxophone playing because it has real feeling, and I've said so before. But guitar is a different ball game, it's not the same.
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I have such a dream:
Ragman1 plays jazz guitar like Lionelsax plays jazz on saxophone.
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Originally Posted by kris
If ragman1 tried it he would be surprised too.
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Originally Posted by Lionelsax
But he seems to only like to play with his own backing tracks.
He doesn't know what he is losing.
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I do, but the acoustic sound isn't good with backing tracks. Electric, yes, acoustic not so much. In any case, it wouldn't make much difference to what I play. I've tried it.
And, besides, I like my backing tracks :-)
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Here's a present. Enjoy :-)
JGBE Virtual Jam (Round 37) - Donna Lee
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I had done a few of these in different styles, but wasn't thrilled with any, and deleted them. It turns out one survived, so what the heck ...
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Hey folks,
I'm relatively new to the forum (and to the form - ha ha) and saw these awesome jam threads. It's very inspiring to hear more advanced musicians take a stab at these. I hope it's okay that I post late, but fwiw I recorded this for my teacher November last year, so around about the right time frame:
Cheers,
Cliff
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