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Originally Posted by mr. beaumont
Love this song. Check out The Trio’s (Billy Bean, Walter Norris, Hal Gaylor) version on the original The Trio album—Billy Bean’s 16th note lines over that little section of descending ii-Vs is about as good as it gets for me. So much bounce.
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07-17-2021 03:32 PM
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Originally Posted by setemupjoe
The Hal Leonard real book and the ‘557 Jazz Standards’ have it in Eb minor.
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This one time, if it sucks, it's the backing track.
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Originally Posted by ragman1
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Saturday night at the Jersey shore on a porch amid auto traffic, fireworks, and a thunderstorm is, of course, the perfect environment for recording a little acoustic thing. Anyway, the backing track situation is dismal, so I took a crack at it solo. Came out more Lightnin' Hopkins than Wes. Next time I might try it in the style of the other Carl Perkins.
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Originally Posted by ragman1
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I thought of this tune as being in Gm, because that's where I felt the chords resolved-to. My usual take on minor is that there's a scale with every combination of 6th and 7th, so I just pick them by ear.
Natural Minor G A Bb C D Eb F b6 b7
Dorian Minor G A Bb C D E F 6 b7
Melodic Minor G A Bb C D E F# 6 7
Harmonic Minor G A Bb C D Eb F# b6 7
For "general feeling of tonal center" for soloing, I thought G melodic minor. At least, I thought that after I heard an F# more than an F.
So, my mental key signature - for soloing - had a Bb and an F#. A chord using the notes of Gmelmin and having a G in the bass will feel like a tonic to me.
Aside: This is consistent with a notion I've mentioned before - chord tones in the foreground (of your mind) and tonal center in the background. With melodic minor harmony it's almost the same thing (per Mark Levine's statement that all melodic minor chords are the same chord). Reg pointed out that it's true for voicings but not function, but we're talking about voicings here. (apologies to Reg if I've misunderstood this.)
But, looking at the written melody, makes it look more like the tonic is a Dorian minor written with one flat. Bar 3 is convincing. If it was written with two flats it wouldn't have made any difference to me. In fact, I probably wouldn't have noticed.Last edited by rpjazzguitar; 07-18-2021 at 02:42 PM.
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Originally Posted by John A.
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I can't get into this tune in a jazzy way. Sounds like kid's spooky music to me. So... look out, IT'S BEHIND YOU!
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Originally Posted by Triple_Jazz
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Originally Posted by John A.;[URL="tel:1134820"
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Originally Posted by Triple_Jazz
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Interesting versions and discussion. I picked the changes and melody up from the recordings (Benny Green has a great one, and of course Wes). Just by ear and they way it resolves I think of it as just a bunch of Eb min (or in my case, E minor), and not harmonically complicated. I didn't spend much time analyzing it, though.
I actually tried both F#7 and F#M7 (G in my case), and the F#7 definitely sounds better to me. My sloppy way of thinking about it is that 7ths are fluid in jazz, and either flavor is more "legal" than not a good chunk of the time.
Wzpgsr, yours sounds great. Good groove and space. You to TJ.
Ragman, nice to see you doing something slow and moody for change
Jeff, I like that you took at a little brisker than the rest of us and got a groove going.
Rpjazzguitar: doesn't suck. Must be the backing track.
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Couple of parts that I am not hearing on my Billy Bean (The Trio) reference version as notated in my chart:
Over the static chord that, in my chart is Ebsus/Eb, I pretty clearly hear Bb pedal underneath...something. I tend to play it as Bb7#11.
Also, after the descending Vs, my chart lands on E7. I hear this as something like Bb7#11 for two beats and Bdim for two beats, or maybe E7 for two and Fdim for two.
This might be specific to that version of the tune—if anyone is familiar curious to k ow what you’re hearing in those parts.
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Originally Posted by ragman1
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Originally Posted by wzpgsr
This looks like the version you're using:
Have you seen this?
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I suppose I ought to do something in Ebm...
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I'll stick with Gm for the time being. Fine contributions so far - enjoyed them all. I dig this tune and will work on it some more, including learning the head properly.
In the meantime this will have to do:
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Originally Posted by TOMMO;[URL="tel:1135060"
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Originally Posted by Triple_Jazz
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I find these threads quite intimidating so perhaps it’s a good thing the audio didn’t stick when I did a take the other night. I’m on vacation and only brought a NUX MightyPlug. It sounds decent and can record directly to iPhone but sometimes they just don’t pair. Perhaps jamming to iReal and recording is asking too much.
Last edited by Peterson; 07-20-2021 at 03:24 AM.
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Originally Posted by Peterson
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Great tune, I think I originally heard Wes' version before any others. I opted for Eb minor. Backing is BIAB.
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Originally Posted by Peterson
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