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Originally Posted by grahambop
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04-06-2021 10:08 PM
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Originally Posted by rpjazzguitar
I just did this. No pre-thinking, no manipulation, it just happens. Nice and s-l-o-w-l-y so there's no ambiguity!
But I have to be honest, I didn't always play just G7 on previous versions. Sometimes it was a Cm, sometimes an Fm, sometimes a G7, but they all work for me. I don't actually like that AbM7, I don't really know what it's doing in there.
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Originally Posted by ragman1
I am somewhat interested in analysis afterward. It's sometimes helpful.
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That Abmaj7 chord kept catching me out at first. I needed something really simple to hang it on. Eventually I started using a C minor run/triad etc. which works there. Can be run into a G7alt phrase very easily, I was definitely doing that.
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Originally Posted by rpjazzguitar
Anyway I have just ordered a Lehle signal splitter, so in future I will be able to send one signal to the amp and the other to my recording interface. Should be a lot better!
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Originally Posted by ragman1
I think he plays some lines that reflect the Ab, from memory.
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Originally Posted by Triple_Jazz
Nowadays I can hear ideas in my head for most tunes. The problem is I can’t always play them in real time.What my fingers want to do is not always as good! Especially when the video camera is running...
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Originally Posted by grahambop
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Originally Posted by grahambop
sry for the derail.
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Graham, really enjoyed your take. You have the ability to build something that has a real arc to it...makes listening to your playing always enjoyable.
Re: the Ab...I mean, it's a C blues anyway...and C blues lines are not a stretch on the Ab chord.
There's some slightly different things going on with the maj7 being present, but the Ab to G7#5 (or the Dbmaj as a tritone sub) isn't that different from the turnaround that's so common on a MINOR blues...
Not sure if that's significant or not, but that's what my brain said to me to squash any thoughts of me thinking it was "weird."
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Originally Posted by mr. beaumont
In terms of what to outline in a solo, either flavor of 7 is OK depending on where you're coming from and going to. In my own version over the Aebersold track, I was playing mainly chromatically around that change and maybe passed through both G and Gb (I'd have transcribe carefully myself to be sure), but I think I was mainly hanging out around C7 and/or Cmin (C7#9) on that chord change. I treat the whole thing as C blues and didn't give it a lot of thought one way or the other (except to watch out for clashing with Cmaj7 on the bar 11). ¯\_(?)_/¯ I hear stuff, I play stuff.
John
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Sam Jones original. As you can hear, the chord sounds aren't terribly 'dominant' or bluesy. I think there's a lot of 6 (13) in there. The solos aren't particularly bluesy either. And they're certainly playing a M7 for bar 9.
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Originally Posted by grahambop
Already love your sound and what you play
That Lehle sounds interesting. I don't love the idea of a virtual amp, I'd rather capture my own amp and the room itself. Not because I think my amp has a great sound, just because that's how I play when I place out. Always working on dialing in the sweet spot.
Does the Lehle require any special hardware or software, or is it plug and play? I would love to send my amp sound into the computer and have it mix with the live sound of the room. It'd be easier to balance my sound.
Honestly, the easiest work around for me would be to record with MY bassist friend so the balance would be all live. Ron, you ain't the only lucky one (though I dig his style) I think he is more comfortable playing at this stage of the pandemic. You'd all be in for a treat, he is quite the bassist.
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Originally Posted by ragman1
John
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I really want to hear this "not bluesy" Sam Jones version, can't find it anywhere! What's the album called?
The important takeaway of course is that the A sections ARE a blues, so they have three harmonic areas....All the stuff we're talking about is just the V, So you can play anything over it to pull back to I.
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Originally Posted by mr. beaumont
maybe this works:
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Originally Posted by ragman1
I'm reminded of what Wyatt Earp said to Ike Clanton: "... Ike, you talk too much for a fighting man."
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Originally Posted by djg
I do find it quite bluesy, really. It's a jazz blues, they're playing changes, but it's definitely bluesy.
Of note--now I'm here with crappy laptop speakers, but I swear I hear the Ab clearly on all the "A's" of the sax solo....but NOT on the first two A's of the trumpet solo. But it's back on the final A. Interesting.
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Originally Posted by Triple_Jazz
Lots of that here!
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Originally Posted by PickingMyEars
Yeah I’ve been looking to improve my recording setup for a while now.
I could mic my amp (DV mark little jazz) but the result doesn’t sound that great to me. I like a lot of clarity on the guitar, otherwise it gets a bit lost by the time youtube gets its hands on it (I guess they compress it a lot), and then it maybe gets played back through a phone speaker or something. Mic’ing the amp doesn’t give me such clarity. Also my ‘music room’ is pretty small, having a mic stand as well as camera tripod etc etc just gets a bit cluttered. Going direct is just so much easier. I recently got a tube preamp for the direct signal, it sounds pretty good through that. (although to be honest, my Gibson 175 seems to produce a pretty useable sound just plugged straight into the interface).
But the downside of ‘direct’ is how to monitor the guitar (I hate using headphones). So I have this nice amp just sitting there, and I could use the amp sound purely for monitoring my guitar, if only I could split the signal first.
The Lehle is a passive splitter (no power needed) but designed for guitar signals. So very simple, 1 input and 2 outputs. Contains some kind of transformer to isolate the 2nd output from noise, hum etc. so that’s the best output to record from. It’s a bit pricier than some, but said to be good quality (German engineering!). Anyway it’s coming tomorrow, so we shall see.
One benefit of the lockdowns is I haven’t spent much money for ages, so I can afford a few ‘toys’ at the moment!
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Triple jazz, missed your initial post! Love it. Tons of energy, great lines, and the octave chorus was SMOKING.
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Originally Posted by grahambop
I also appreciate and admire up-tempo playing. I struggle to be able to play faster than 180 or so and enjoy hearing people who can naturally communicate great musical ideas at faster tempos. I will have to listen to you clip a lot more to see what I can absorb.
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Originally Posted by mr. beaumont
John
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Originally Posted by lawson-stone
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Originally Posted by grahambop
John
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