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Originally Posted by PickingMyEars
However, I am still looking for a hollow-body setup.In the case of hollow-body, the quality of the instrument is very important. I think so.
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03-08-2021 12:26 PM
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Very nice version, ragman - kinda "country blues"-ish, reminds me a bit of those old murder ballads like Frankie and Johnny.
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Tommo -
Well, this is the deceptive nature of these things. When I was doing it it sounded very thump-thump, like the big hammer whacking a rock. Coming to it later, now it sounds bouncy, not my intention at all. Ah well, c'est la vie
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Originally Posted by wzpgsr
John
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Anybody else remember wzpgsr's name spelling when responding to him in a post by referring to him in your head as Wizard Pickguard Senior?
No?
Just me?
I'll get back to figuring out what this week's tune will be then. Nothing to see here.
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Here's a version I did. Most backing tracks on the net have different chords to the original which felt wrong for me to play over, so I just looped a walking bass chorus.
To me this song shines when the band plays an Art Blakey shuffle (and I try to be Grant Green! ). But this version turned out different ..
This series of threads has been great. It's great to hear/see everyone playing, it's the closest thing to hanging out and having a jazzguitar.be jam session we can get! Only the drinks missing, so cheers everybody, and kudos to the OP..!
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Originally Posted by Alter
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Originally Posted by Alter
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Originally Posted by Alter
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Alter, some FANTASTIC inside out in there. Very Sco of you Love it.
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This is more of a journal entry... trying to get this TUNE learned. I find the last 4 measures are hard to feel. Maybe it's the backing track, but it's likely my own lack of some basic natural rhythm!
Advice and counsel welcome, especially on how to tackle that last 4 measures. Please don't say "just feel it" I sorta already know that.
Also: Attempted more of a chordal chorus at the end. Didn't go very well.
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Originally Posted by lawson-stone
The chords fly by quickly—nothing wrong with laying into some blues over that Db7-C7. Or a nice sounding pattern with a chord tone or two, first in Db7, then repeated a half-step down.
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Originally Posted by wzpgsr
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Sounds good, lawson. Like being said above: if you play F blues with a b5 over those chords you can't go wrong - it'll sound great.
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Originally Posted by TOMMOOriginally Posted by lawson-stone
Another approach would be to slow it way down and try to hit the important notes, that is,the ones that change from one chord to the next.
F7 to Bb7 ... you can hit A-->Ab, Maybe Eb-->D.
Then, it goes to G7. So, you're going from Bb D F Ab to G B D F. So,you can drop the Ab to G and raise the Bb to B.
For the G7, the main thing is lowering the B to Bb.
So, your line might go A Ab G Gb F. Or A Ab B Bb Ab. Or A Ab G G (for both chords) F
Once you can hear the guide tones, then you can embellish them.
The second approach is a lot more complicated. That doesn't make it better. My choice in my clip was just to play on Fmin and let the comping "do the work".
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Barry Harris strategy
Db7 C7 Fm
Play
Gm7b5 C7 Fm
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Originally Posted by christianm77
Db7 C7 Fm is taken from G7b5 C7 Fm
Db7 looks like substitute for G7b5
...anyway both strategies work
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I kind of see 4 basic parts and movements in this song, that I enjoy practicing separately also.
First 6 bars tonic F-7
Bars 7-8 moving from tonic to target dominant C7
Bars 9-12 tonic F-7 again.
Bars 13-14 are about targeting the Bb7 (classic 4 chord on blues)
And the last two bars are a movement back to the tonic (using some variation of subdom-dom-tonic or just dom-tonic sounds).
It took really learning when the first C7 and when the Bb7 arrive to feel comfortable with the tune.
About the last two bars, I really enjoy how Grant Green and Wes handle this movement where they usually mix a bit of lines and a bit of blues or scalar material (Green often just plays some variation of F harmonic minor lick). So one great approach is to transcribe some licks of them.
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Originally Posted by christianm77
edit: i'm reminded of this. this is pure hardbop, a quite different place from the BH realm.
Last edited by djg; 03-10-2021 at 09:47 AM.
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I first learned this tune years ago from Kenny Burrell's solo version on his 'Live at the Village Vanguard' record, so here's my solo take inspired by KB.
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Don't rack your brains about too much theory regarding Db7 -> C7 -> Fm. It's a classic cadence in minor blues - the most famous probably being "Thrill Is Gone". A blues player would bend the 4 a half step into a b5 for VI7 and release to the 4 over V7.
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Originally Posted by grahambop
I was thinking about doing another clip doing exactly that: playing without a backing track but ditched the idea because my playing probably wouldn't have been much different from my first attempt.
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Originally Posted by grahambop
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Originally Posted by djg
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wow. i never realized that.
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