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Well played quixotic-looking Alter! If I ever wish to learn to play this tune (properly), I'll come back and check out your video.
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02-09-2021 07:01 PM
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really enjoyed that. Enjoy a bit of pick solo
Originally Posted by Alter
Here's an attempt, no backing though..
guitar...
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Really enjoyed this. Great forward motion and swing. Originally Posted by Alter
Here's an attempt, no backing though..
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I suppose I need to pick a tune for this week...hmmm....
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how about... Satin Doll?
That tune gets crapped on more than I can count at jam sessions.
Too easy?
Then I guess these jam junkies (not you bunch, I mean the young guns at jam sessions--especially in NYC) can play better solos on Satin Doll than...
Wes Montgomery
Red Garland
Oscar Peterson
Ella Fitzgerald
McCoy Tyner
Errol Garner
Clark Terry
Barney Kessel
...you get the point. In the past three years of practice and study I have found that the best way forward...
... is to go backward, and revisit what you thought you knew with new ears, eyes, and knowledge.
I am diggin on Satin Doll.
What say you, Mr. B?
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Kris,
I am lucky enough (not good enough) to be one of the house guitarists at a local jam sesh. Great band... I'm the weakest link
Anyway, the leader once asked me to play solo in between jam sets.
If I could play solo guitar anywhere near as good as Alter, I would have said, "no problem." I just sat out.
There is a famous guitarist... who told a similar story... I think it was Russell Malone. He took a chance and rolled with it, even though he was just starting his career.
Here's the thing. Alter pulled an "Andy Brown" with that take. What's an "Andy Brown", you say?
Playing solo guitar and keeping it grooving. Hard to swing and groove with a band behind ya. An artform to keep everything swangly all by yourself. Yes, swangly is my new word
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I'll probably do the next one with a backing track.
It sometimes gets a bit stale to play with backing tracks, and we all pretty much have been doing that this last year. Plus I recently changed back to Benson picking and it felt like a quick challenge!
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Thanks for the kind words. I recorded this without a metronome, but generally speaking i always practice and play with a metronome (on two and four) unless there's a specific reason not to. Or i record a chorus on a looper using a metronome, then stop the metronome and practice with the looper.
You are always going to have a reference time when playing with others, so i think it's a very healthy habit to have.
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Re: Satin Doll...
I think that one will probably be covered by the Practical Standards group, so I'll avoid toe stepping.
I think for now I'll keep this group focused more on jazz tunes as opposed to tunes adopted by jazz artists, if that makes sense...but I guess satin doll still is a jazz tune...hmmmm....
I do have a fun one this week planned though, a different feel than our first few
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Sounds good.
Can you give us a hint, Jeff?
It's like dangling candy in front of a toddler...
Gimme mah candy
Looking forward to it, whatever song it is!
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Satin Doll would come up in the "Practical Standards" but I had thought this thead was focusing on "jazz originals" i.e. tunes like "So What" that are jam session staples but not "GASB" tunes. I might be wrong, but my own original post calling for a group like this had that idea in mind. Originally Posted by PickingMyEars
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I haven't been able to spend much time playing guitar this week, so I just pounded this out to "stay in the game."
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Fingerstyle is cheating Originally Posted by PickingMyEars
Kris,
I am lucky enough (not good enough) to be one of the house guitarists at a local jam sesh. Great band... I'm the weakest link
Anyway, the leader once asked me to play solo in between jam sets.
If I could play solo guitar anywhere near as good as Alter, I would have said, "no problem." I just sat out.
There is a famous guitarist... who told a similar story... I think it was Russell Malone. He took a chance and rolled with it, even though he was just starting his career.
Here's the thing. Alter pulled an "Andy Brown" with that take. What's an "Andy Brown", you say?
Playing solo guitar and keeping it grooving. Hard to swing and groove with a band behind ya. An artform to keep everything swangly all by yourself. Yes, swangly is my new word
(jk, but pick solo guitar is an underrated thing.)
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Well done, Lawson, energy!
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the guy that we both respect and love to listen to... Peter Bernstein
And Howard Alden!
What I love about Andy Brown's playing is that even when he just plays solo guitar--he makes you want to hop up and dance some.
That groove and forward motion. When it's right, you know it. Does something to the body, the gut--you just gotta get up to feel it through.
Hard to explain, but that is my definition of swing and groove. Visceral. Almost like riding a roller coaster, yet not as hectic
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Good one, Lawson. The one comment I might offer is "more cowbell", oops, I mean "more triplets" to get a more bop-ish feel. Otherwise, note choices and phrasing are good. Originally Posted by lawson-stone
John
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Thanks! I can always tell I"m over-thinking when I get frozen into a couple of rhythmic patterns. When I just "go sloppy" I miss some notes but often get more interesting time feel. I definitely am not over-thinking this one. The Fm7 Bb7 in M. 2 I just don't think about... Originally Posted by John A.
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You all made the mistake of encouraging me. Plus, I can't get this tune out of my head now. So this is yet another shot at not over-thinking, or even under-thinking... in fact, "What WAS he thinking?" is likely going to be the reaction. Maybe I'm Exhibit A in why it's not wise to say "Just play what you feel" or the like. I will say this: I was having fun. I was pretending that backing track was a real band, imagining interacting with them, and trying to just play out at whatever level I could. Not thinking about swing, bop, or whatever.
Yeah.. maybe not the best approach but I had fun with this. Hope you at least are encouraged to think "Hey, I can do better than that!"
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I listened to your earlier take, Lawson, and really enjoyed it. Didn't have a chance to type then, so I came back and now I got more listening!
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Talking about solo playing.. if anyone hasn't heard Bernstein's solo album, the "Live at Smalls" one.. it's from another galaxythe guy that we both respect and love to listen to... Peter Bernstein
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this one, Alter?
Grooves abound, shake what ya momma gave ya
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is great. I need to relisten. Originally Posted by Alter
Talking about solo playing.. if anyone hasn't heard Bernstein's solo album, the "Live at Smalls" one.. it's from another galaxy
It was listening to him that made me want to focus on pick playing above fingerstyle.
he has the ugly beauty thing going on. Even very accomplished solo jazz guitar can have a tendency to sound bland, and PB has this thing going on. Comes from Monk.
I need to get back on the Monk train. Keep getting distracted by lesser music, such as Bach
(actually JS to me has some of this ugly beauty thing as well.)
Not practicing jazz much ATM which is why I haven’t got on this thread.
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He’s crazy good. But it’s also quite ‘worked out’ Originally Posted by kris
Not a criticism. Different solo players have different approaches. If PB is like Monk, MT is like Oscar Peterson to my ears. He swings like a barn door...
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Straying away from this thread, one solo album i really enjoyed was Ron Affifs Solotude. He usually plays so busy, but this one is simple and beautiful (i love his other stuff too!
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Kojak!
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