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01-24-2021 04:57 PM
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the players make it interesting...and it's certainly expansive, i.e. wordy...but i don't agree with all that many of his statements...as the writer himself writes, you could just as easily reverse his hypothesis as well...very difficult to button hole an artists entire career!
makes me harken to the old adage- comparisons are odious
(i do wanna play some warne marsh now tho!!)
cheers
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I don't agree with him at all. He needs to listen to more Lester and more Warne. But it is an interesting read...
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I don't agree with everything he says, but it is well written and a good read - especially if you're familiar with the artists and their work.
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Imagine writing an article describing Prez and Hawk and not talking about their very different sense of swing.
Prez is far more modern in this regard; it’s possible to describe every subsequent horn player as a synthesis of the two approaches. But of course that synthesis was Bird, so what do you expect?
Ethan Iverson does this kind of essay well. Check out Do The Math.
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Originally Posted by neatomic
I bought the one with the saying "Don't expect too fast." (They're Pickboy 1.00 mm picks.)
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Originally Posted by christianm77
agreed on ethan iverson..top class
cheers
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Originally Posted by neatomic
Shades of Jazz (Keith Jarrett, Charlie Haden, Paul Motian, Dewey Redman) | DO THE M@TH
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Originally Posted by christianm77
Specifically checkout the DTM piece
18 with Lee K. | DO THE M@TH
for further discussion on the connection between Pres and the Tristano school feeling of swing etc...
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Originally Posted by guido5
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I listened to some Marsh and he definitely plays more "outside" the harmony than Rollins. The comparison to Lester Young and Coleman Hawkins was silly.
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warne marsh on lester young-
"I began hearing Lester Young, and really fell for his manner, on a quite conscious level."
"I still consider my heroes—Bach, Bartok, Charlie Parker, Lennie, Lester."
from good warne marsh interview @
Jazz Profiles: Warne Marsh's Inner Melody - The 1983 Downbeat Interview with Francis Davis
cheers
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Originally Posted by neatomic
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find it interesting that a favorite of birds..was also a fave of tristano school..tho not at all surprised!!
bartok!
this was the one...1949...L.A....an all time fave
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