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Originally Posted by FwLineberry
I *do* think it's cool that we've gotten some guitar versions of this posted for posterity. My initial search, several months ago, didn't really yield anything.
Personally, I will probably post 12 keys in one position for each, but not 2 positions for each one, the way I've done for others.
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06-06-2019 10:39 AM
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Originally Posted by jasaco
Am I remembering correctly that you're a pedal steel player?
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Originally Posted by FwLineberry
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Originally Posted by matt.guitarteacher
My next video will be 1231 and 1321 (is that #38 and #39)? I'm not sure how I'll record it but I am practicing them daily.
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Originally Posted by matt.guitarteacher
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38 and 39. I found two ways of playing them which where difficult to me and did it like that in different keys (only recorded in one, or else it would have been a really long video).
I am also trying out different ways of recording the audio and direction of cameras, so it’s a bit messy in the AV apartment.
Patterns for jazz. Pattern 38 and 39. Deadline version. For study group - YouTube
(edit: not sure why it doesn’t display a in post preview)
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Originally Posted by MarkRhodes
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40
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Just one pass at each pattern. Still learning 3 nps fingerings and getting used to those stretches. #40 is MUCH more difficult for me than 38 and 39. Perhaps by tomorrow...
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Originally Posted by MarkRhodes
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Originally Posted by MarkRhodes
The descending line on exercise 40 is tough to finger cleanly especially where the scale crosses from the B string to the G string or anywhere that one finger is covering notes on two frets.
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Originally Posted by FwLineberry
I find this one trickier than the others ascending too. Not as tricky. But a little.
But there is real value in 3 nps fingerings and I'm gonna get me some! ;o)
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Originally Posted by ErikWasser
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Originally Posted by MarkRhodes
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Originally Posted by FwLineberry
So, basically, I was just awful at all of the "backwards" patterns - like playing a descending pattern while ascending the scale or vice versa. You really can't practice these enough as an entire unit to ever feel like you're getting traction, because the direction you're already good at just keeps getting better, making the more difficult part just sound worse and more and more frustrating.
I eventually just practiced the "backwards" patterns in isolation until they were at least in the same ballpark. It really helped with the frustration aspects.
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Originally Posted by matt.guitarteacher
Same here. Take pattern 38 for example. I always practiced that as given for ascending but using C B A C, B A G B, etc, for descending. I have to stop and think about it to do the same pattern descending.
I'm surprised at the patterns chosen here, though. I don't think the majority of them are particularly musical. I would think running scales in 3rds through 7ths would be a more valuable practice and is something I have neglected but plan to put some effort into.
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Originally Posted by matt.guitarteacher
I think Reg said something about this once. Something like 'backwards is a different pattern!' It is. And it should be learned that way.
We may be fooled by the beginner exercise 1234 from the low E to the high and 4321 from the low E back to the high. (Though sticklers would say, 'go back the same way.') That's easy enough to do that way and I think it gave me the idea that everything should be as easy in reverse and if I keep f**king up, well, time to change my picking again! Aaarrgh! ;o)
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Yeah . The problems presented by those backwards patterns are actually great technical work . When you stop practicing them alongside the ones you're already good at, it really helps with frustration factor too. Always best to practice things you don't already know how to play. :-)
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Originally Posted by matt.guitarteacher
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No metronome today. Wanted the liberty of taking the descent slower, as I still have trouble with it.
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Here's my offering for the next two sets of exercises. I combined all six patterns into one drill with each line changing scales a 4th higher and using a different finger pattern. Patterns 38 and 39 are at 134 bpm. Patterns 40-43 are at 100 bpm. I took a little liberty with the last pattern and changed it to G7 to set up a blues ending on C7.
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Pattern #38 for deadline. Comments welcome.
BTW, I've realized that these are really good exercises to slow down and work on economy picking while building the muscle memory.
Last edited by jasaco; 06-10-2019 at 03:02 PM.
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You guys are awesome. Thanks for posting. I'm out-of-state on a college visit with my youngest child and awaiting news of the birth of a second grandchild with my oldest. I'll try to get something up later this week.
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Patterns for Jazz #39 for deadline. Comments welcome.
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Originally Posted by FwLineberry
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