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    This study group is based on the book, Patterns for Jazz by Jerry Coker, Jimmy Casale, Gary Campbell and Jerry Greene.

    Post a "deadline version" video of any or all of the weekly patterns, by Sunday each week, following this schedule:

    May 5: 24-26

    May 12: 27-28


    May 19: 29-32


    May 26: 33-36


    Please, state the BPM you're using, which pattern(s) you're posting, and label the post "deadline version", (understanding that a more "final version" may take additional time etc). Please state whether you would like comments on your playing.


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    Special thanks to Erik for kicking off May for us.
    Quote Originally Posted by ErikWasser


    Only 24 and 25, never got round to working on 26.
    Any comments are welcome.

    I've been just slammed with everything to do with end-of-year concerts and recitals, graduation and senior-year events for my daughter and a pretty big sound system installation for my church gig. Also, I installed 2 new raised beds at home for plants my wife had ordered which just wouldn't wait.

    Sorry for not getting this thread up sooner. I still need to get a new card reader in order to post anything besides phone video. That may be all I can manage for this week anyway.

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    While trying out a metronome app I had a go at pattern 26 to meet the deadline. At 140bpm it was very rough.


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    I guess I need to brush up on my reading comprehension skills as well as my guitar technique. For some reason I thought we were responsible for five patterns this week, so that's what I worked on. They're recorded, so I might as well just post them.

    For this group, I just tried to find a way/position to play each sequence that made some kind of musical sense. I couldn't come up with any way to make either 26 or 28 sound musically engaging, so I just did them as a picking exercise with the most difficult shapes for me to pick cleanly.


    Pattern 24 - 152 bpm






    Pattern 25 - 120 bpm







    Pattern 26 - 144 bpm







    Pattern 27 - 120 bpm







    Pattern 28 - 120 bpm






    I'm not sure what I'll work on this week. I may either forge ahead or use this week as an opportunity to dig back into some Pat Martino stuff that's been on the back burner.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FwLineberry
    I guess I need to brush up on my reading comprehension skills as well as my guitar technique. For some reason I thought we were responsible for five patterns this week, so that's what I worked on. They're recorded, so I might as well just post them.

    For this group, I just tried to find a way/position to play each sequence that made some kind of musical sense. I couldn't come up with any way to make either 26 or 28 sound musically engaging, so I just did them as a picking exercise with the most difficult shapes for me to pick cleanly.
    Good stuff, Forrest.

    I may have planted that seed for 5 patterns. In the original post on dividing these up, I mentioned that it's basically a 5-pattern grouping. So, 3+2 is the way we went with it. #28 is pretty technically challenging on guitar, and you're sounds great. Congrats.

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    Good work on the patterns this week. I like how you made it flow, and comparing mine and yours 26, mine sounds very staccato. It inspires me to give it another go.

    The app is Time Guru Metronome. Had it for a while but couldn’t figure it out when downloading it so forgot about it. Good for making patterns or different kind of rhythms but the really nice feature is the random muting of clicks.

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    I'm still alive!

    Sorry, video says it all.... I will try and catch up as soon as I can....

    Mike

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    Patterns 24 thru 26

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    Quote Originally Posted by matt.guitarteacher
    Post a "deadline version" video of any or all of the weekly patterns, by Sunday each week, following this schedule:

    May 5: 24-26

    May 12: 27-28


    May 19: 29-32


    May 26: 33-36

    I'm thinking of revising this to be....
    May 26: patterns 33-37

    ....Instead of the original of33-36. I always work on ascending and descending patterns together anyway. Thoughts?

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    here's 24-26. For fun, I'm playing my 1970s Aria Pro II PE180, a fantastic L5ces copy, through a 1966 or so Silvertone (Sears) 1484 "Twin Twelve" head and using a Yamaha G100 210 as the cabinet. this is a sweet playing and sweet sounding combination.

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    120bpm (both). Deadline versions.


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    Been crazy on the homefront lately. Finally got mom placed in an assisted living facility. Now it's time to re-order my days and nights. It's a big (though welcome) adjustment. Have actually had some time to practice lately but my concentration and energy are near-non-existent. Hope things ease up for a good long while.


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    Patterns 27 & 28 at 120 bpm. I'm still zoomed in from a choir concert I guess. So, some of it is off-screen. Didn't have enough room to crop off the face either. :-) I really liked this drum genius waltz on #27. It's Swing 3/4 1 "All Blues".


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    I have fallen really behind on comments on these , but I'm really glad to see so many hanging in there. Great posts. I'm very grateful to have the group. I have been busier in the last three weeks or so than I've been in a very very long time, and I don't know that I would have done anything with this material for the last month or two without a deadline and other people doing it. So, thanks again, all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by matt.guitarteacher
    I have fallen really behind on comments on these , but I'm really glad to see so many hanging in there. Great posts. I'm very grateful to have the group. I have been busier in the last three weeks or so than I've been in a very very long time, and I don't know that I would have done anything with this material for the last month or two without a deadline and other people doing it. So, thanks again, all.

    I had the same thought. I'm probably spending too much time on this material vs. other stuff I should be doing, but I'm finding the investment is paying off. My note/position/key recognition is definitely coming up. But I wouldn't be applying myself this way if I didn't have to record and post my results each week. In fact, this last week I got really lazy in my practice because I didn't have to.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FwLineberry
    I'm probably spending too much time on this material vs. other stuff I should be doing, but I'm finding the investment is paying off. My note/position/key recognition is definitely coming up.
    I'm finding the same benefit in note / position / key recognition. The movement in minor 3rds is especially good for me. Meaning, it came really hard for me! I wanted to play through the patterns without looking at the book and I kept getting lost! But I don't get lost as much lately. I think the next patterns---major scales---will really lock that it.

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    Here's 27-28.

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    Trying something I don't do often and haven't recorded for these patterns yet... Economy picking. I'm having some difficulties with the economy picking and will include it more in my future practice. Rhythmically it's harder for me, but I think it's a very clean way to pick.


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    Quote Originally Posted by lawson-stone
    Here's 27-28.
    Good job. 28 is a beast. Watching this reminded me that I had sworn that I was going to keep playing this one once per day for a while...

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    Quote Originally Posted by fep
    Trying something I don't do often and haven't recorded for these patterns yet... Economy picking. I'm having some difficulties with the economy picking and will include it more in my future practice. Rhythmically it's harder for me, but I think it's a very clean way to pick.
    Great Tele tone Frank. Thanks for posting.

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    I’ll admit to being more interested in trying some new video-gear and editing stuff here. These exercises
    where also very boring
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    The major scale patterns are good technical work if you really work on making them musical. I work on slurring into the beat as much as possible so that they swing more.

    The attached 3rd position pdf has some examples of this with tab on the last page. I'll post video later.

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    Quote Originally Posted by matt.guitarteacher
    The major scale patterns are good technical work if you really work on making them musical. I work on slurring into the beat as much as possible so that they swing more.

    The attached 3rd position pdf has some examples of this with tab on the last page. I'll post video later.
    Great work on the boxes, as usual! I couldn’t find a decent program, but I’ve made empty boxes on paper for some of my students who will be given some home assignments filling in arpeggios. Mind if I show them yours as an example, it’s so much clearer then my own scribbling? I won’t be handing them out, just showing them on my iPad.

    The exercises are very useful. And I think next weeks will be fun once we’ve done the legwork on these.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ErikWasser
    . Mind if I show them yours as an example, it’s so much clearer then my own scribbling?
    Sure. Absolutely.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ErikWasser
    The exercises are very useful. And I think next weeks will be fun once we’ve done the legwork on these.
    Yeah. these picking techniques work really well on those too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fep
    Trying something I don't do often and haven't recorded for these patterns yet... Economy picking. I'm having some difficulties with the economy picking and will include it more in my future practice. Rhythmically it's harder for me, but I think it's a very clean way to pick.
    Great work on the economic picking. I’m guessing it’s also a nice guitar, but you make that Tele sound really good.

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    Here's this week's round. All exercises are at 152 bpm.


    Pattern 29 - open position with no shifts





    Pattern 30 - fifth position with no shifts





    Pattern 31 - starting in 4th position and working off fingers 1, 2 and 4 from the A and D strings





    Pattern 32 - starting each set of four from the 8th fret with the 2nd finger





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    So, I was going through patterns 33-36 and then switching them around in pattern 37 and changed my mind on how I'd prefer to do them. 37 is going to take a different set of fingerings to flow well unlike before where it was just a mater of swapping ascending and descending with the same fingering. So, for me 37 is four new exercises.


    I can work out all eight variations if everybody decides that's the way to go, though. Are the polls still open?

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    Hadn't thought of playing 'em in open position - I'll have to think about that first...nice

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    Here's mine for last week. Patterns 29-32...

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    I am still in the game folks. Hope to have something posted here pretty soon.

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    Epecially good job on those triplets. Difficult to play that cleanly. Thanks for posting, Frank.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lawson-stone
    I am still in the game folks. Hope to have something posted here pretty soon.
    I have been horribly lax with everything the last month or so. Got my girl graduated, and I'm very quickly approaching a time when there's basically less to do in the garden etc. Tomatoes and zucchini are looking pretty good.

    So, time to get back to guitar stuff. Are you traveling this summer, or it is that every couple of years or so?

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    Quote Originally Posted by matt.guitarteacher
    I have been horribly lax with everything the last month or so. Got my girl graduated, and I'm very quickly approaching a time when there's basically less to do in the garden etc. Tomatoes and zucchini are looking pretty good.

    So, time to get back to guitar stuff. Are you traveling this summer, or it is that every couple of years or so?
    I'm headed out to Israel with students on June 9, returning July 20. We're doing our usual 3 weeks of historical geography followed by 3 weeks of excavation on an archaeological site with the Hebrew University of Jerusalem. So from about June 4 or so until the end of July, I'll not be posting clips. I will be able to read the forum and participate in discussion, but for 6 weeks I won't even have a guitar physically available to play!

    So I do hope to complete May's patterns before leaving the country. Then I'll likely double up and try to bang through June-July more quickly to get caught up by the end of August.

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    On 27 I did an Eric Johnson sort of trick. He'll often play sequences were he alternates the first note of each sequence between and upbeat and a downbeat. By changing the last note from a quarter note to an eighth note this kind of thing happens. I thought it sounded kind of cool.


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    Quote Originally Posted by fep
    On 27 I did an Eric Johnson sort of trick. He'll often play sequences were he alternates the first note of each sequence between and upbeat and a downbeat. By changing the last note from a quarter note to an eighth note this kind of thing happens. I thought it sounded kind of cool.

    Nicely done. I agree that beat displacement sounded pretty cool.

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    I've started working on 3 nps scale fingerings, so every scale pattern (at this stage, for me) begins with the index finger. (I'm using Steve Crowell's "84 Jazz Guitar Equations".)

    Either today (Sunday) or tomorrow (Memorial Day), I'll go over the major scale ex in the PFJ book this way and see what happens.

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    Hi guys! I have been lurking this study group for a while and waiting for my copy of the book arrive. Well, the book finally arrived and I'm hoping to join your group. I have to come up a plan to catch you. What do you guys think, is it better to play these excercises from the beginning? I was thinking of another way, where i would try make the weekly excercises and at the same time work on earlier patterns. Thanks Matt for setting up study group

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jhui
    Hi guys! I have been lurking this study group for a while and waiting for my copy of the book arrive. Well, the book finally arrived and I'm hoping to join your group. I have to come up a plan to catch you. What do you guys think, is it better to play these excercises from the beginning? I was thinking of another way, where i would try make the weekly excercises and at the same time work on earlier patterns. Thanks Matt for setting up study group
    Great.

    I think whichever way you like. Posting older material only promotes group health IMO, and it encourages others to do the same. I've seen groups in the past where people felt the need to back out if not on pace. So far, we seem to have a very healthy display of people at different levels and different places in the book as well.

    Thanks for joining in.

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    Here are patterns 33-36. All are at 138 bpm.

    I finally settled on doing the first three in strict position starting off the low E string and the last one starting off the low E, A and D strings with the middle finger for each set of four chords, respectively.


    Pattern 33 - 138 bpm - 8th position






    Pattern 34 - 138 bpm - 7th position
    - apologies for the camera going out of focus at the start of this one. By the time I caught it. I didn't have time to redo it. It's probably a good indication of my mental state while I was recording these, anyway.






    Pattern 35 - 138 bpm - 5th position







    Pattern 26 - 138 bpm
    - starting in 7th position and ending in 12th position





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    Patterns 33 thru 36 at 139 bpm:

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    Has anyone looked ahead enough to have an opinion on groupings for 5 weeks worth of patterns for June?

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    Quote Originally Posted by FwLineberry
    Here are patterns 33-36. All are at 138 bpm.

    I finally settled on doing the first three in strict position starting off the low E string and the last one starting off the low E, A and D strings with the middle finger for each set of four chords, respectively.
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    Nice. Your endings always have me saying to myself that I need to do something more interesting, but then I do the lazy thing. Good stuff.

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    Quote Originally Posted by matt.guitarteacher
    Great.

    I think whichever way you like. Posting older material only promotes group health IMO, and it encourages others to do the same. I've seen groups in the past where people felt the need to back out if not on pace. So far, we seem to have a very healthy display of people at different levels and different places in the book as well.

    Thanks for joining in.
    After giving it some thought, I will start from the beginning. I guess it makes more sense, since the patterns increase in difficulty as you progress with the book.

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    Quote Originally Posted by matt.guitarteacher
    Has anyone looked ahead enough to have an opinion on groupings for 5 weeks worth of patterns for June?
    Tentative June schedule proposal:

    June 2: pattern 37
    June 9: 38-40
    June 16: 41- 43
    June 23: 44-45
    June 30: 46-47

    The last four weeks seem largely arbitrary I know. They're more like two-week groupings than logical one-week groupings, but it's a peculiar spot in the book.

    Any thoughts?

    Honestly, I'm really pleased with the freedom that everyone seems to feel in posting things whenever they're ready. I've always thought it kind of a double edged sword : if a study group has no dates or deadlines it just seems to get soft, but at the same time, very often things seem to fall off when people feel like they're getting behind or something. I'm really happy to see people posting things at different points in the book and even some new folks joining in.

    Along those lines, I'd be interested in others input regarding WHERE to post etc. Is it best to just "let June be June" and post whatever you're doing currently, rather than posting in another thread which lines up better with PATTERN number etc? I'd almost think it's healthier to conversation etc to just do it by current month rather than going back to old pattern number etc?

    Thoughts?

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    Quote Originally Posted by matt.guitarteacher
    Nice. Your endings always have me saying to myself that I need to do something more interesting, but then I do the lazy thing. Good stuff.


    I appreciate you saying that. I was concerned that I might be coming off as pretentious. It's really just part of my learning process, though.

    I have a tendency toward understanding things intellectually and never really learning them on the fingerboard. If I were to go through this book on my own, I would probably hack on each exercise a couple of times and say to myself, "Yeah, I know that one." By turning each exercise into a little etude and making myself learn it so I can record it with no mistakes for the group, I'm forcing myself to actually go through the material and get it down.

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    Quote Originally Posted by matt.guitarteacher
    Tentative June schedule proposal:

    June 2: pattern 37
    June 9: 38-40
    June 16: 41- 43
    June 23: 44-45
    June 30: 46-47

    The last four weeks seem largely arbitrary I know. They're more like two-week groupings than logical one-week groupings, but it's a peculiar spot in the book.

    Any thoughts?

    I haven't had a chance to look ahead yet, but I imagine that would be a good outline.



    Honestly, I'm really pleased with the freedom that everyone seems to feel in posting things whenever they're ready. I've always thought it kind of a double edged sword : if a study group has no dates or deadlines it just seems to get soft, but at the same time, very often things seem to fall off when people feel like they're getting behind or something. I'm really happy to see people posting things at different points in the book and even some new folks joining in.

    Along those lines, I'd be interested in others input regarding WHERE to post etc. Is it best to just "let June be June" and post whatever you're doing currently, rather than posting in another thread which lines up better with PATTERN number etc? I'd almost think it's healthier to conversation etc to just do it by current month rather than going back to old pattern number etc?

    Thoughts?

    Having gone through several of the old study group threads, It's nice to have everything gathered into the relevant locations, even when posted years apart. It's also encouraging to see people come back in and post on the old threads. Many of these groups seem to go so far and then wither on the vine.

    I see where you're coming from, though. Since this material doesn't really go by chapters, It would do just as well as an ongoing discussion. One danger that might present, though, is a breakdown in structure. Going through the old threads and graduating to each newer thread would provide a sense of focus like we've had in doing the material originally.

    Ultimately, people are going to post when/where they choose. I don't know how much you can steer it.

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    I agree with FWLineberrys above post on the way forward/gathering of information in set locations/threads. I think it’s perfectly fine that we are at different places in the book, since everything is organised very nice.

    As for this weeks patterns I’m way behind on the necessary work, and this is probably the place in the book where I’d given up on my own out of boredom. I have about thirty guitar students a week, and I love every second of it (everything from Twinkle, Twinkle little Star to jazz standards), but it’s getting harder and harder to spend time “doing the workout” in my free time.

    BUT watching through the different videos and posts here (lots of great work!) makes me want to get back on the horse again*!





    edit: *not sure if that’s and English expression