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Hi everybody.
Tag posted this video in one of his recent troll threads, and I must say, I like the more subdued sound of the Les Paul. The PRS has too much abrasive bite for my taste.
Let me know your thoughts.
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05-10-2024 08:59 AM
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Different worlds. A non-trem singlecut vs a doublecut trem. Then there’s how the amp is dialed in. Les Pauls and 335’s can sound dark. If you set up an amp to work well with a LP and then switch to something else (whatever it is) then it may not sound as good. PRS is about sustain, clarity and making a guitar ring like a bell. So yes, if you switch from a LP to a PRS (especially a trem version) then it’s going to be a heck of a difference.
Technical stuff aside, people who are totally into Gibson (or Fender) are rarely impressed by a PRS and that’s putting it mildly. Personally I made the switch to PRS long ago and have never looked back, but it’s not because of any A/B videos. You need to hear them in the room and experience how they interact with the amp and with you. Then there’s the clarity, I mean play a 6/9 chord or a Hendrix chord or the James Bond chord and it’s an epiphany. But they’re certainly not for everybody and it’s not uncommon to see big names going back from PRS to Gibson.
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In my guitar journey, I had a PRS (Custom 22) and found it to be a superb guitar. It kind of splits the difference between a Strat and a Les Paul just as a 335 splits the difference between a 175 and a Les Paul.
At the end of the day, I don't need the differences split as I like a 175, Les Paul or a Strat (I own three of each and do almost all my gigs on one of those three models these days) so my PRS and my 335 are both long gone. But I see the attraction to both a 335 or a PRS. (Or Telecasters or an SG. I have had both of those models and prefer a Strat or a Lester).
Bottom like: I am a Gibson/Fender guy who IS impressed by a PRS.
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I’m the other way around, a PRS nut who also appreciates the legendary brands that came before. Apart from the craft and the obsessive pursuit of constant improvement, I appreciate PRS mostly because the guitars have their own voice and aesthetic. I steer away from their models that resemble classic guitars, like the 594 Singlecut or the Silver Sky. My small collection consists of a DC3, an NF3 (probably the most underrated PRS ever), an early SE Soapbar, a core DGT and a 594 Hollowbody which is probably the best electric guitar I’ve ever played, bar none.
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My DGT IS my Les Paul. It does the LP humbucker bridge thing in spades. The neck is also quite nice. Despite the fact it's a trem and a doublecut it's not worlds away from a LP, not even a neighborhood away really. But the DGT has PAFs in it, not whatever is in most or PRSi. That makes a huge difference.
Yes, I've owned a couple of Les Pauls over the years. Was never a fan of the way they felt- the neck angle, the body shape... just felt kind of foreign to me (and I'm a tele guy). I much prefer the way the DGT feels.
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I am like SS, I like PRS guitars they are well made and play fine. However, in the end a basic good playing Les Paul is what I would prefer if given the choice. Les Pauls do many things, and everyone knows them instantly so no need to go any further.
Last edited by deacon Mark; 05-11-2024 at 02:03 PM.
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I recently tried an S2 Single Cut 594, which I guess is supposed to be as close to a Les Paul as PRS gets. I'd say it felt and played a bit differently. Despite the way they pitch it as out-Gibsoning a Gibson due to the guiding hand of Ted McCarty, don't think it really is a clone of a LP, and is more its own thing.
Anyway, craftsmanship and playability were excellent. It felt good (and lighter than a LP). I like the way the body is beveled and contoured (don't love the sharp edges of a LP). So it's certainly a valid take on this style of guitar, but I have to say I think it's really ugly. The color, figuring and burst all look really weird in person (much more so than in pictures). Ditto for the double cutaway version. The core models are definitely very pretty, though, but way out of my price league.
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This is not the Gear Page.
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I find it to be an interesting debate, and want to see what Jazz musicians think about this topic.
I personally don't dislike PRS. Overall I prefer the Les Paul sound. I have heard PRS guitars are easier to play.
My main guitar is currently a Stratocaster, which I love dearly.
I do enjoy a good archtop as well.
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I have several of both. PRS overall quality is better than even the gibson Custom shop ( I have 3 ). All are fine instruments.
Comparisons outside of that are highly subjective . What really matters is the person playing it, not the instrument.
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Well Santana and McLaughlin certainly went whole hog with PRS. And John Mayer (though he was a Strat guy previously).
Originally Posted by Oscar67
I like McLaughlin’s sound on PRS. He even plays it with Shakti these days - prefers it because of hand arthritis.
Santana’s best tone IMO though was his Yamaha SG, e.g., Moonflower.
I’ve never even held a PRS though. Probably best I don’t because then I’d want one LOL.
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That's funny, I've never held one either! Originally Posted by Doctor Jeff
I've always just had an LP, strat and telecaster for solids, they have the classic sounds and always worked for me.
I'm not crazy about the PRS asthetics, and I'm a bird lover!
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+1!! Originally Posted by Greywolf
I also own PRS and Gibson solid body guitars, and never compare one to the other. I play them for enjoyment and appreciate what each brand brings to the table. I've gigged them both over the years and have not found fault with either in tone or feel...they're just different interpretations on the solid body guitar with unique designs and electronics.
That said, I think PRS (USA) build quality equals or surpasses Gibson 'Custom Shop'. As far as tone, feel etc. that's more of personal preference in my view.
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I have a PRS and am happy with it. Never had a Les Paul, though I have played a friend's.
Had a Strat for a long time and miss it sometimes. Have a cheap Tele that I like fine too.
But the PRS (SE Custom) has become the guitar I pick up every day now.
To each his own.
I should probably change my avatar!
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I have one PRS JA-15. I have no desire for another PRS.
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That might be my ultimate bucket list guitar. Never saw one, never played one. How do you like it? Originally Posted by Jabberwocky
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I've only ever tried 2 PRSs and that was decades ago. The first was briefly for a couple of numbers at a jam night. Didn't know what model it was. The amp was a Rivera. Both beautiful pieces of kit but I was mostly a Tele player then and was more comfortable with my 80s Tele and Musicman rp65.
The 2nd was a new 513 which I'd read about and was really interested in. It was in a store at about £2500 back then. Unfortunately the set up was appalling and I couldn't get it it tune. When I mentioned to the assistant that it needed a set - up he got shirty with me. I lost interest after that. Bought my first real LP in 2010 - a 2004 std. I'm still using the LP with the MM!
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Some interesting analysis of statements made by PRS.
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The thing i don't get is all the hate on guitar forums for PRS.People complain about guitars from overseas and you have this great builder here in the U.S. building fine sounding ,beautiful guitars.On top of that i think their quality control is much better than Gibson or Fender.It's ok to love a PRS and Les Paul which i do.
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100%. They try to use words like "sterile" LOL... which really just means ultimate consistency... UNLIKE Fender and Gibson. Originally Posted by nyc chaz
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Online discussion tends to be dominated by argumentativeness and defensiveness, especially defensiveness about one's own choices and purchases. There are orders of magnitude more Gibson and/or Fender owners than PRS owners, hence more criticism online of PRS in defense of Gibson/Fender purchases than vice versa. But in the real world of people who play guitars and talk to each other in person, I've almost never observed anything other than "oh, is that a [name of brand/model]? Cool." Forums are not a proxy for guitar owning/paying in general. They're their own thing. Originally Posted by nyc chaz
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All true. However, I will say, I've never seen the "animosity" between Fender and Gibson... as much as those 2 "representatives" give it to PRS. It's like PRS is the ugly stepchild or something. And what about the other brands who just get completely ignored? Gretsch, Danelectro, etc. Originally Posted by John A.
Maybe that's it: PRS is the only one that has ever taken a "serious run at" the big 2. Kind of like Taylor in the acoustic industry (vs Gibson and Martin)... altho if Taylor hasn't won that battle yet, they are at least an equal. Taylors seem ubiquitous.
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I think that’s exactly what it is. Nothing is allowed to be “better” than the big 2 I guess. However a friend of mine is a Gibson guy and the sound of a PRS makes him cringe. To him it’s like nails on a blackboard. Some folks just really dislike them. Originally Posted by ruger9
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I have never played a PRS but I have to admire how that brand has found a new perspectives to an electric guitar AND achieved a wide popularity among players. I love my Les Pauls and Teles and I’m not seeking new options personally, but in wider perspective it is great to have more variety in the guitar world.
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That's mental. He's DECIDED to hate them. I don't care who makes the slabs: 2 slabs of maple capped mahogany with quality PAFs in them will not sound that different. "nails on a blackboard"...ridiculous. Alot of people hear with their eyes. Even some pros, astonishlingly. Originally Posted by Oscar67
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