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    Need suggestions for a completely hollow thinline like the Casino but with humbuckers. I'm looking for something lightweight that I can put a Bigsby on for Chet stuff. The Gretsch Nashville Classic is something like 8.5 lbs and the Eastman 486 with Bigsby that I had was a nice guitar but super heavy. I know the Gretsch 6120s are hollow and a little lighter but don't really want orange. A thinline, totally hollow, with humbuckers that either comes with a Bigsby or I can add one, and must have an ebony fingerboard would click all the boxes. Is the Eastman T186 a possibilty? Budget around $2K.

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    You can throw a Dusenberg Les Trem on a lot of hard tailed guitars as well.

    Duesenberg Les Trem II | Duesenberg Store

    Floyd Rose makes one too, but they are in the $300 range

    FRX Tremolo System – Floyd Rose

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    If I was looking for that style of guitar I would check out Grez guitars in Petaluma, he makes a few in that style. But he is a small shop so budget might be an issue.
    Last edited by bluejaybill; 03-06-2024 at 07:37 PM. Reason: spelling

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    This came to mind... Epiphone Wildkat ES? Eccept they have flashy colours and a center block so it might not fit the profile...


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    Some possiblilities, several price points:
    • Sire H7F. New model, just announced at Winter NAMM. Everything but the wiggle stick. I haven't played one yet.
    • Ibanez AMH90. On the small side, but plays well and mostly fits your stated requirements. Trapeze tailpiece.
    • Hofner VeriThin, particularly some older (used) models. Current range does not have ebony fingerboard.
    • Epiphone Emperor Swingster. The old Joe Pass model with a vibrato bar. Laurel fingerboard.
    • Paul Reed Smith Hollowbody SE Standard, might be a little small at 14", but balances well. Probably not suitable for a Bigsby because of the bridge.
    • Used Epiphone Johnny A or Gibson Johnny A. Hard to find.

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    How about a Guild Starfire III? Thinline, fully hollow, humbuckers (more of a mini-humbucker), and already has the Bigsby.

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    Gibson Memphis ES-330 from 2018. They did one year of 330s with humbuckers as stock. I have one and it's great. The only finishes I've seen are black and the satin walnut that I have.

    When I was looking for mine I also saw a different 330 model, the 2019 59 Mod, that had humbuckers but also had standard appointments and a vintage sunburst finish, but I've never seen one for sale.

    Edit: missed the ebony board part, these are rosewood.

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    Hard to tickle all the boxes, seems you are a Chet fan, so Gretsch is the first brand to consider. Not all of the 6120s are orange...
    I would either suggest a Japanese Gretsch 6122 Country Classic II in walnut. Ebony fretboard, longer scale. it can do all the Chet things, nice trem but not very light.
    Or a regular simple G5420T and change the PUs to TVJones and replace the trem yourselve by a proper model bigsby. The 6118 models are also worth looking at.
    And for something completely different : King Snake two bone blonde amber natural thin body and add a Bigsby
    Last edited by hotpepper01; 03-05-2024 at 07:15 PM.

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    An Eastman T145 or T146 might fit the bill, if you can find one used. I'm not sure either is still in production. The tailpiece might have to be changed to accommodate a Bigsby, but that probably applies to most makes and models. I'm not familiar enough with Bigsbys to say much about that.

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    I don't think this is "all hollow," but Sanchez makes wonderful guitars, and it fits many of your requirements!

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    Peerless Renaissance (Custom) is exactly what you described.





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    Höfner Thin President @2004-2006 version, a hollow guitar:
    -ebony board, maple neck;
    -25 1/4" scale;
    -carved spruce top, laminated back & rims;
    -2 1/4" or 2 1/2" (I forget which) deep rims;
    -mini-humbuckers (neck pickup is floating, bridge pickup sits on the top);
    -can easily be equipped with a Bigsby B6 or B-60, roller bridge, whatever;
    -15 7/8" wide body at bottom bout;
    -16th fret neck/body joint.

    Not commonplace, but resale on these is very low.
    Excellent guitars.




    Last edited by Hammertone; 03-06-2024 at 07:39 PM.

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    Gibson Es 275

    Edit : maybe not as thinline as you want?.. well I'll leave the option. It may tick your boxes

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    Quote Originally Posted by dconeill
    Some possiblilities, several price points:
    • Sire H7F. New model, just announced at Winter NAMM. Everything but the wiggle stick. I haven't played one yet.
    • Ibanez AMH90. On the small side, but plays well and mostly fits your stated requirements. Trapeze tailpiece.
    • Hofner VeriThin, particularly some older (used) models. Current range does not have ebony fingerboard.
    • Epiphone Emperor Swingster. The old Joe Pass model with a vibrato bar. Laurel fingerboard.
    • Paul Reed Smith Hollowbody SE Standard, might be a little small at 14", but balances well. Probably not suitable for a Bigsby because of the bridge.
    • Used Epiphone Johnny A or Gibson Johnny A. Hard to find.
    Ibanez AMH90 is not completely hollow,it has a small block under the bridge.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hotpepper01
    And for something completely different : King Snake two bone blonde amber natural thin body and add a Bigsby
    They have a dirty and muddy smell (according to Google translate!) $1900, I would love to try one out but I am far from Japan

    Two Bone T ~Amber Natural~ #TBT-017 | クロサワ楽器店 日本最大級の楽器通販サイト

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    This will widen your options. Dogear humbucker from curtis novak.




    Dogear-PAF – Curtis Novak Classic Pickups

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    I had a Peerless Sunset--fully hollow. Rosewood fingerboard--the ebony fingerboard requirement is going to be pretty limiting I think.

    Peerless Sunset Features -- Guitars 'n Jazz

    There are quite a few other Peerless hollow thinbodies as well. Quality is very good.

    I currently have a Gretsch G6117T-HT (6117 Double Anni reissue) which is 2.5" in depth. It already has a Bigsby. (It is hollow but has a soundpost. With Gretsch P90's.) Gretsch doesn't currently offer the 6117 but they offer the 6118 (same guitar) in mint green.

    Check out their website. There are a ton of guitars that would fit the bill. Some of them, particularly the Chet models, are over $3K though.

    Finally just throwing this out there the Godin Montreal Premiere--various versions over the years, some with Bigsbys. They have a soundblock, but it is fenestrated to allow for a more open sound. Very well made guitars.

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    I agree with the suggestions for a Gibson Johnny A or a 275, I have both and they're great guitars. My 275 doesn't have a Bigsby, but some models come stock with one. Unfortunately they may be more than you want to spend right now.

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    The ES 330 checks a lot of boxes for a lot of players.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BreckerFan
    Gibson Memphis ES-330 from 2018. They did one year of 330s with humbuckers as stock. I have one and it's great. The only finishes I've seen are black and the satin walnut that I have.

    When I was looking for mine I also saw a different 330 model, the 2019 59 Mod, that had humbuckers but also had standard appointments and a vintage sunburst finish, but I've never seen one for sale.

    Edit: missed the ebony board part, these are rosewood.
    Not a good pic but mine is the Marine Blue finish.

    Hollow Thinline-gibson_es330_hb_f-jpg

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skip Ellis
    Need suggestions for a completely hollow thinline like the Casino but with humbuckers. I'm looking for something lightweight that I can put a Bigsby on for Chet stuff. The Gretsch Nashville Classic is something like 8.5 lbs and the Eastman 486 with Bigsby that I had was a nice guitar but super heavy. I know the Gretsch 6120s are hollow and a little lighter but don't really want orange. A thinline, totally hollow, with humbuckers that either comes with a Bigsby or I can add one, and must have an ebony fingerboard would click all the boxes. Is the Eastman T186 a possibilty? Budget around $2K.
    Have you looked into a semi hollow single cut?

    My LP-ES is 6 lb. 12oz. and the Pat Martino is 7lb. 9 oz. where 330's are about 6lb 10 oz.

    Hollow Thinline-lp-es_patmartinorf-jpg

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    How important is 100% hollow vs one small block under the bridge? Eastman’s line of Romeo models might fit the bill.

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    This is a semi hollow, but GC has a Comins GCS-1 with a bigsby already on:

    ttps://www.guitarcenter.com/Used

    I think they come in around 7.5 lbs

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    I‘m quite content with my new-found Yamaha SA30 (1968) - it’s a full hollow thinline 335 size model with great sounding (humbucking) pickups , very comfy neck and all around cool vibe.

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    Someone mention the Romeo, here is a model with a Bigsby.

    I would suggest testing one though, I found the neck to be very, very thick

    Eastman Romeo LA 2022 - Celestine Blue | Reverb