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Originally Posted by Stringswinger
Mark is really not sure that he will get to the whole list.
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07-26-2023 04:51 PM
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Originally Posted by bluejaybill
I guess that's when the prices on the used market will finally take off.
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Originally Posted by vinnyv1k
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Originally Posted by bluejaybill
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Well...accidents do happen.
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Originally Posted by Stringswinger
' preferred ' spot in D'Angelico's build schedule to John Collins......
What a guy.... : )
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Originally Posted by Irishmuso
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Originally Posted by Fal Tarlow
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So much great information! I am in the position of having to sell a couple of guitars before making a purchase, but Campellone and Trenier are both at the top of the list.
I know of nowhere else I could ask this question, acknowledging that any answer is going to be subjective.
If we assume a solid carved spruce top, playing chord / melody jazz standards finger style and un-amplified / acoustic, is there a quality that can be assumed for the two different builders? Is the Campellone going to have a stronger bass and Trenier a more prominent mid-range? Or is it going to be each individual guitar is unique?
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Betz,
These are two completely different guitars. The Campellone is parallel braced with wide reinforcement strips down underside of top plate and back plate seams. The Campellone also has a steeper angle from saddle to tail pc. which adds a bit more downward pressure on the top. Marks guitars have a sweet tone with a very nice natural reverb - and very balanced. . Marks guitars achieve a great post war Gibson vibe not found in post 2000 Gibson acoustic Archtops.
The Trenier is X braced , with no reinforcement strips on underside of top or back plates and neck angle is flatter off the saddle. The Trenier has a deeper recurve and very vibrant plates - and has a wooden tail pc. The tone is rich and resonant with an organ like sustain - especially in the 1st thru 10th frets. It's very D'Aquisto like, which is a quality desired by those who've played them .
I've owned 5 Campellones and an equal amount of Treniers. I enjoy playing them both. But for fingerstyle acoustic playing, which is what I primarily play, I gravitate to the Trenier. If your going to plug in - the Campellone has that traditional electrified Archtop tone which you might really like, but I find it to be a bit stiffer and requires more fretting effort.
If I was ordering a Campellone today, it would be a short scale 24.6 - 24-3/4. I find the 25-1/2 scale to be more challenging to play.
Both Mark and Bryant are great builders. I've known Mark for nearly 30 years and Bryant for over 10. We are talking about builders at the top of their game - and both have global recognition.
You can't go wrong with either builder. If undecided - just get both, then keep the one you like best.
Sent from my SM-P610 using TapatalkLast edited by QAman; 08-05-2023 at 02:44 PM.
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Thank you, QAman. Very well said. Returning to my flat top roots, it’s almost like you are describing a dreadnought (Campellone) and an Orchestra or Concert sized (Trenier). One is not better than the other, although, all other things being equal one may be better suited to a piece or style than the other.
As I have to first sell a pair of Gibson’s, I will have to see what is available once I have cash in hand. Right now there are excellent examples of both for sale so hoping things do move quickly.
For now, I am now going to read your post again . . .
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Originally Posted by Betz
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+1 to FourOnSix comment about Trenier.
Betz, if you really want that flatop / Archtop hybrid sound, go with a Trenier Round hole. I believe Dream Guitars may have one for sale.
It's best to try and play examples from both builders.
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Originally Posted by QAman
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Originally Posted by jim777
Someday, I would love to have an example Campellone and my Gibson Citation in the same room and go back and forth between them.
Tony
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Originally Posted by QAman
Being in coastal North Carolina I could make a couple-day road trip and actually try a few from both builders, based on what is currently for sale within a reasonable distance. Of course, that could change overnight. I know my son, who is a much better guitar player than I, would love to join me on that.
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Originally Posted by Betz
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Originally Posted by Mark M.
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Is everyone enjoying this thread as much as I am? Truly remarkable information presented.
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