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I tried some Pyramids some years ago, and as I recall they didn't last very long before going dead and losing intonation.
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11-13-2022 10:35 PM
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I've tried a number of flat wound sets and have always come back to TIs. I haven't had any bad sets although the set I put on last week seemed to be a little less polished than my previous set. And playing a couple of hours every day, I generally change the two plain strings after a couple of months and get about 6 months on the wound strings.
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Originally Posted by jzucker
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What's your opinion on Rotosound Top Tape?
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After a few weeks of playing the T-I swings 013 -53 set, I noticed wear patterns on the brass from 0 fret to about the 17th and at the picking area.....Essentially no more brass where I play . So then does the brass actually make a difference in the sound in the first place?
I guess I'll be looking for some plain Elixir.....
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I guess you mean the 1st two strings? Indeed, the plating wears off. Happens to all "brass trebles" (and even the Optima gold trebles) that I've tried. I understand the same thing happens to whatever coating Elixir put on their trebles.
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Originally Posted by SOLR
It oxidises after some time due to the hand perspiration. It depends on the individual chemical composition of the hand perspiration how long the plating will last.
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Originally Posted by RJVB
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Originally Posted by bluenote61
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Originally Posted by SOLR
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Originally Posted by jzucker
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The strings have normal tin plating underneath the brass, which is so thin that it doesn't seem to affect anything other than visually. If the strings were just carbon steel under the brass, they would rust very quickly after the brass wears off, but they don't, because of the tin plating. The brass coating is just a gimmick to convince players to buy them. AFAICT it does nothing, and doesn't last very long at all.
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You'd wonder if it wouldn't be possible to use brass instead of tin for plating. Too stiff, maybe, or an alloy that doesn't adhere well enough to steel?
I've posted about it before; I do have the impression that the brass coating affects the string's intonation when it starts wearing off unevenly. Maybe that's just my imagination but at the theoretical level that effect should definitely be there
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Originally Posted by sgosnell
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Originally Posted by RJVB
Thank you
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TI does use brass plating, but use tin underneath it, probably because the brass wears away so quickly. Perhaps a thicker brass plate would last longer, but I've done no experimentation, not even a thought experiment. But I suspect there are good reasons why every string maker plates steel strings with tin.
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That reason could be that this is what is used in the plants that make the actual wire, of which there are just a handful.
Pyramid do make bronze trebles, for citterns. I have never yet been able to figure out if those would resist to the tensions we need, nor if they'd need different tuners (e.g. without the hourglass shape). Evidently they wouldn't work for electric playing, but I'm guessing there is little reason or even justification to look for a rounder sounding string design/material in that case.
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