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Any opinions or insight into this potential purchase of a '74 Super 400? The actual shop in Chicago area has a long-standing good reputation.
Used 1974-75 Gibson Super 400 CES Arch Top Hollow Body in | Reverb
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01-17-2022 05:07 PM
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waaaaaay overpriced
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Originally Posted by wintermoon
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I would agree while a nice guitar it is not going to sell at that price. I think possibly it is worth between $7500 and $8500 then it will sell. All these shops have guitars for the most part overprice. Price them correct and they will sell. Just look at dealers who move guitars. I have observed on Reverb the same guitar for sale for years and years literally. Whoever has this guitar that owns it clearly is not a forum person. Put that guitar for sale on this site at a reasonable price and it would sell.
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the guard looks like a replacement and I'd suspect the pickup covers are as well
seeing a guitar that clean w/out the original case is kind of a red flag, I bet the old offgassing guard did a number on the case lid.
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Originally Posted by tomvwash
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obviously not the orig case
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Originally Posted by wintermoon
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Nice guitar with a few minor negotiating points involved as noted. Throw them an offer!
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Prices are going crazy these days...
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Originally Posted by Hammertone
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Originally Posted by tomvwash
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Originally Posted by Stringswinger
It's become harder to trust remote buys, both because of mistaken or misleading descriptions and because of the hassles involved in returning a guitar that isn't as described. This may well be a wonderful guitar - it's just hard to know without having it in hand, by which time reversing the deal is (as we're reading right now in other threads) often very painful.
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Originally Posted by nevershouldhavesoldit
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Originally Posted by Stringswinger
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So if this was bought as a pristine time capsule investment, and considered as such (as evidenced by the price and condition), would it be something that should only be purchased as an investment? Wouldn't playing it be a risky act?
Are instruments like this (and the prices that go with them) indicative of instruments that are not to be considered "players"?
I'm just curious. I also wonder about the sound of an instrument that has obviously NOT been broken in after all these years, no less played. I'm aware of how much and long it takes for an instrument (especially some Norlin era instruments which had a tendency to be built a bit on the heavy side) to get that warm buttery vibe that lurks in the wood. Never met an instrument that got there without some hard work. Even museums that have Strads in their possession have working musicians associated with them so they can be played regularly. And none of them are pristine like this catalogue showpiece. Not by a long shot.
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Their website is asking $10k for it. Wait a while and the price will probably come down. Make an offer and ask them to call the consignee.
Used 1974-75 Gibson Super 400 CES Arch Top Hollow Body in Vintage Sunburst 552979
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[QUOTE=WilliamScott;1174168]Their website is asking $10k for it. Wait a while and the price will probably come down. Make an offer and ask them to call the consignee.
Used 1974-75 Gibson Super 400 CES Arch Top Hollow Body in Vintage Sunburst 552979[/QUOTE
Im already working with the store, directly. Their price is $9700 with the overnight shipping.
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ask them to send you pics of the undersides of the pickups
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Originally Posted by Stringswinger
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Originally Posted by Jimmy blue note
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The reason I ask to see the undersides of the pickups is not only to determine if the covers were replaced [I'd bet dollars to donuts they were] but to make sure it has the original pickups as well. Replaced covers aren't the end of the world but @ that price you definitely want the original patent # pickups in there.
As for the Norlin era it's been said many times, guitars need to be judged on an individual basis regardless of era.
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Originally Posted by tomvwash
Whilst the there are reports of nice sounding and or playing Norlin guitars, that company had a particular ethos regarding cost cutting for profit and it was persued egregiously.
It is wishful thinking to hope that they changed their ways for the guitar you coincidently now want to buy.
And with all the shipping malarkey (tm Joe Biden) currently going on in the US, I would stay clear.
There's always another deal. That's all you need to remember. A nicer one from a better year, for less money, is coming round the corner.Last edited by Archie; 01-18-2022 at 05:31 PM.
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Originally Posted by tomvwash
One thing about Norlin policies, I did get the distinct feeling that there was an embracing of the Heftiness=longevity aesthetic. That was a reflection of the new business execs' philosophy. Take that as you may.
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