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The rot set in when Gibson found they could make a lot of money from mass production of a crude solidbody guitar.
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12-30-2021 02:11 AM
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Originally Posted by dconeill
Joe Pass got given a Gibson and then went on to play a D'aquisto.
Jim Hall went on to play a D'aguisto. There's a theme going on here.
Herb Ellis left Gibson for Aria.
Wes complained that his guitar had terrible intonation and was a lemon. It was a Gibson.
Howard Roberts wanted a better guitar so he cut a big hole in his Gibson.
Guild was more of a luxury, exclusive brand, like Bentley.
Even Johnny Smith woke up and smelt the coffee
Last edited by Archie; 12-30-2021 at 10:56 AM.
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I love my ES175 but that guitar is weird af.
Sometimes I can’t stop playing it and every note makes me happy to be alive and sometimes I need an extended break from that guitar before I give up on music out of frustration and become a hermit.
You don’t get that kind of experience from an Ibanez Artcore, I’ll grant you.
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Guild didn’t seem a luxury brand here in the US, least not in central NJ in the 60’s. Clear second to you know who.
Here it comes:
Im beginning to think the best 175 I’ve ever had is the LGB300.
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Originally Posted by ArchtopHeaven
“George Benson is better than all of those and he played a Guild” [and many other brands including Gibson, D’Angelico, D’Aquisto and Ibanez, which he has had an extremely long-standing endorsement arrangement with]
“Joe Pass got given a Gibson and then went on to play a D'aquisto” [and then an Ibanez and then went back to a custom made Gibson, which he played for the rest of his life]
“Jim Hall went on to play a D'aguisto” [this statement is accurate, other than the spelling error]
“Herb Ellis left Gibson for Aria” [for a very short time and then returned to Gibson and endorsed a signature model, based on his original Gibson guitar]
“Wes complained that his guitar had terrible intonation and was a lemon. It was a Gibson” [I don’t know anything about this story, all I know is that Wes played Gibson guitars exclusively throughout his entire career]
“Howard Roberts wanted a better guitar so he cut a big hole in his Gibson” [and went on to collaborate with Gibson to build not one, but two signature models]
“Even Johnny Smith woke up and smelt the coffee” [Johnny allowed his name to be used on a few brands including Gibson, Heritage and Guild. The first Guild Johnny Smith Award model was not designed to his specs and he said he never actually owned one. The second Guild Johnny Smith Award model was built under supervision of Bob Benedetto during the short-lived Guild/Benedetto arrangement and this was long after Johnny had stopped playing guitar. I am fairly certain that virtually all of Johnny’s recordings were made with either a D’Angelico or his Gibson Johnny Smith model]
KeithLast edited by floatingpickup; 12-30-2021 at 10:59 AM.
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It’s almost like handmade instruments have lots of variations and you can’t necessarily judge the qualities of an individual instrument by its marque and model alone.
obviously that’s crazy talk
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what an famous artist plays is many times due to the financial arrangement they have with the manufacturer. Sometimes it's actual payments, sometimes it's a free guitar, sometimes it's PR...
One very famous jazz guitarist started playing another instrument recently. I asked him how he liked it and his response,
Originally Posted by famous artist
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Originally Posted by floatingpickup
It's not on you, it's on me.
I enjoyed reading your post and it is entirely accurate.
For what it's worth, Benson also loves recording with his Gibson Johnny Smith.
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Originally Posted by ArchtopHeaven
Keith
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Originally Posted by Christian Miller
Your tongue in cheek remark is well-taken and true. I bought my first Gibson in 1966--an entry level ES125TC. It is a laminate guitar with thousands of hours play time and in near pristine condition for a "working" instrument. However, there's something special about this guitar since it has continued to change/develop over the years despite being a laminate which, in theory, is not supposed to bloom like a non-laminate/solid wood guitar. I'm certain it wasn't made by Gibson's top luthiers but I would never sell the instrument. I have played many other ES125TC's and now own my brother's '66 ES125TDC but they never have matched the sound of my first guitar. I, also, own three luthier-built Classical guitars and my working instrument--an Esteve 1GR08 Cedar that cost $1,800. new 20 year ago (which was $3,000. less than my LoPrinzi and Brune 5K plus) is a magical sounding instrument despite the lower price. So, for the fortunate few that have found that "special" Gibson, it IS irreplaceable, especially the older instruments with quality, aged tonewoods and thousands of hours play time. If I ever wanted another instrument, I would only buy a Classic Gibson since, for me, it IS the quintessential Jazz sound.
Marinero
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Originally Posted by floatingpickup
1) I'm English
2) I'm usually always making a light hearted joke about something.
There's a time and a place for it and perhaps a Gibson thread is not one of those times or places
Happy New Year to you and your loved ones (including the guitars).
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Originally Posted by ArchtopHeaven
Keith
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Did someone mention George Benson playing a Gibson ?
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Originally Posted by jazzkritter
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My bambino came in 2008 . After extensive giging it needed a volume pot . Pulling the guts out reaveled a totally emty sound chamber ,no wood block under the bridge... Mickmac
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NAMM is a month away. I don’t expect anything exciting coming from Gibson unless you like green and purple Les Pauls.
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Originally Posted by John A.
ES 355
ES 175
L5CES
Wes
Johnny Smith
Super 400
Byrdland
Kalamazoo Award
No ES 356, Johnny A., Lee Ritenour or Citation - but those came later and are/were lower volume models anyway.Last edited by Donplaysguitar; 12-30-2021 at 07:04 PM.
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Originally Posted by floatingpickup
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Originally Posted by skykomishone
Keith
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He played the Martin flattop when he was in a country band (Joe Pass played one too)
Smith also had an L-5 that was stolen out of his locker between sessions
Rob MacKillop not feeling well.
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