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    Amidst all the 10k vintage Gibson archtops, the most humble of them, the ES 125 remains a true gem. Prices have been going up however.

    In the vintage ES department, it has it all. Mahogany neck and sides. Maple top and back. P90 pup, light build and very responsive. This lil' guitar always makes me happy. So here's a happy song for you. All EQ on the amp (Mambo 10 jazz amp) is flat. Tone pots on the guitar all open.

    The tune is a latin version of "I Love You."

    DB


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    Yes, indeed! That ES-125, as you and others have shown, makes some great music.

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    Of all the jazzboxes I have lusted after, I feel like the ES-125 is the one I really need to own someday, at least for awhile.

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    You only need an ES-125....... ;-)

    Even if you want to play it with overdrive, wah wah and delay:


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    DB,
    Great sounding guitar.Very nice fat jazz sound.
    Beautiful jazz lines and great phrasing - that's it.
    I can hear a lot of musical knowledge in your playing.
    Beautiful jazz lines and great phrasing - that's it.
    Thanks for playing beautifully.
    Best
    Kris
    ps.
    Often, guitarists start playing jazz standards, not knowing how much work and time it takes to complete the task.

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    When i grow up that's how I want to play! This really puts me in mind of Jimmy Raney.

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    Great tone, great playing and proof positive that a cutaway is an optional tool in the quest to play jazz guitar at a high level.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stringswinger View Post
    Great tone, great playing and proof positive that a cutaway is an optional tool in the quest to play jazz guitar at a high level.
    Thanks Stringswinger. The absence of a cutaway does not bother me much indeed. I used to own an ES 300 and it sounded as great as my ES 350.

    DB

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    Very nice.

    Latin lovers are the best!

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    The ES-125 is a jazz guitar for the people. And it can make such lovely music!

    That is a happy tune, happily played, and happily heard. Thanks, DB!

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    lovely !

    i esp like the lick at 2.18

    fab man

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    The best sound of the guitar is in the cello register as I call it from 3-10 frets. Extend it 2 more frets in each direction no need for a cutaway at all. The energy and sound is the best and DB you need cut a recording and do an old fashion CD, I would buy it in a heartbeat. I heard a famous well know guitar player recently play and while the playing was fine your touch and sound exceeds this pretty well known player. It further proves that because someone has a BIG NAME does not necessarily mean they have it up on everyone else.

    I will stand to correct myself you could be well know in Europe, I don't know but for sure on the jazzguitar.be your are one of the big name players!

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    It’s quite hard to play hothouse without a cutaway

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    Quote Originally Posted by christianm77 View Post
    It’s quite hard to play hothouse without a cutaway
    I prefer to play bop heads in the lowest possible register, a la Joe Pass so it would probably no problem. Bop heads sound better IMHO on the lower strings. More thunk. "I Love You" got the same treatment.

    DB


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    Quote Originally Posted by Dutchbopper View Post
    I prefer to play bop heads in the lowest possible register, a la Joe Pass so it would probably no problem. Bop heads sound better IMHO on the lower strings. More thunk. "I Love You" got the same treatment.

    DB

    I suppose you can always transpose bits of it down an octave too.

    Very well, cutaways are senseless.

    TBH I spend most of my playing life quite happily in the baritone-tenor range... And I don’t feel disadvantaged much by a guitar without a cutaway.

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    BTW, in terms of thunk, I think my 175 is sounding exceptionally thunky atm. This may be because the strings on it are now several hundred years old.

    It is rather pleasing, if utterly useless for anything requiring sustain. But then - I have a telecaster for that.

    I shall record some bebop it and see if you DB, as the acknowledged thunkfinder general mock my miserable levels of thunk or whether you think the thunk might be worthy of acceptance among the higher echelons of thunk.

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    Quote Originally Posted by deacon Mark View Post
    The best sound of the guitar is in the cello register as I call it from 3-10 frets. Extend it 2 more frets in each direction no need for a cutaway at all. The energy and sound is the best and DB you need cut a recording and do an old fashion CD, I would buy it in a heartbeat. I heard a famous well know guitar player recently play and while the playing was fine your touch and sound exceeds this pretty well known player. It further proves that because someone has a BIG NAME does not necessarily mean they have it up on everyone else. I will stand to correct myself you could be well know in Europe, I don't know but for sure on the jazzguitar.be your are one of the big name players!
    You are too kind Mark. Many thanks. Nah I am not a big name in Europe, lol. My "fame" (note the quotation marks) is strictly internet based. My style is probably not modern enough to appeal to contemporary jazz audiences. I prefer to play standards in a bop style that most would call dated but since I do not live off my music (I'd starve) I can do whatever I like and I do it with passion and have always taken it seriously. I love contemporary and modern jazz guitar too but only for listening. And in my old age, I feel I am still getting better.

    I love high energy playing, it is my thing, it's the way I hear the music. Tal Farlow, early Joe Pass, Pat Martino, Bireli, Andreas Oberg etc. etc. My kind of guys.

    DB

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    Quote Originally Posted by christianm77 View Post
    BTW, in terms of thunk, I think my 175 is sounding exceptionally thunky atm. This may be because the strings on it are now several hundred years old.

    It is rather pleasing, if utterly useless for anything requiring sustain. But then - I have a telecaster for that.

    I shall record some bebop it and see if you DB, as the acknowledged thunkfinder general mock my miserable levels of thunk or whether you think the thunk might be worthy of acceptance among the higher echelons of thunk.
    You have a vintage 175 right? I'd say a potential thunk machine.

    But ... thunk is a weird thing. It's a mysterious and elusive mix of what is in your fingers, guitar and amp. To isolate the variables that constitute it, is next to impossible. Renowned physicists have tried it for years, but to no avail yet. The search goes on ...

    Record that bop tune and a committee of wise old men will assess the level of thunk. Good luck!

    DB

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    Hi Dutchbopper

    nice to meet you online, I have seen some of your videos and can be considered a fan.
    great guitars, great playing.
    It is good to see the joy the jazzguitar brings into your Life.
    You do not look bitter and sad while playing guitar.




    I got no videos to show - I am just getting into Jazz, slowly - but I have a super nice ES-125 from 1947 and the
    matching amp to boot, the GA-50 "Jim Hall amp" from 1949.

    hope you enjoy it, kind regards.

    Jan


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    Quote Originally Posted by Filmosound 621 View Post
    Hi Dutchbopper

    nice to meet you online, I have seen some of your videos and can be considered a fan.
    great guitars, great playing.
    It is good to see the joy the jazzguitar brings into your Life.
    You do not look bitter and sad while playing guitar.




    I got no videos to show - I am just getting into Jazz, slowly - but I have a super nice ES-125 from 1947 and the
    matching amp to boot, the GA-50 "Jim Hall amp" from 1949.

    hope you enjoy it, kind regards.

    Jan

    Many thanks. Glad you like my stuff. Great guitar and amp Jan! Are you Dutch?

    DB

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    no, I am an evil German.

    rrrr.

    my ES has the first generation P90 pick-up with non-adjustable pole pieces.

    it is a very well used guitar that has lots and lots of songs in it.

    I am so happy that it came into my Life.


    your ES-350 is the one I like best - a true dream guitar.

    happy playing.

    Last edited by Filmosound 621; 04-20-2021 at 05:01 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Filmosound 621 View Post
    Hi Dutchbopper

    nice to meet you online, I have seen some of your videos and can be considered a fan.
    great guitars, great playing.
    It is good to see the joy the jazzguitar brings into your Life.
    You do not look bitter and sad while playing guitar.




    I got no videos to show - I am just getting into Jazz, slowly - but I have a super nice ES-125 from 1947 and the
    matching amp to boot, the GA-50 "Jim Hall amp" from 1949.

    hope you enjoy it, kind regards.

    Jan


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    Quote Originally Posted by Little Jay View Post
    You only need an ES-125....... ;-)

    Even if you want to play it with overdrive, wah wah and delay:

    Nice use of feedback with that electric Jazz solo. Reminded me of something Miles Davis would have done. I see that ES-125 is truly versatile.

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    Quote Originally Posted by christianm77 View Post
    It’s quite hard to play hothouse without a cutaway
    It’s quite hard to play hothouse ....

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    Quote Originally Posted by AlsoRan View Post
    I see that ES-125 is truly versatile.
    that is very true.

    my ES-125 wants to rock.

    it pairs wonderfully with the larger Gibson GA-200 Amp, played at the edge of feedback.




    here is the family shot with my amp collection again, the ES-125 loves all of them - as much as I do.





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    Quote Originally Posted by Filmosound 621 View Post
    my ES-125 wants to rock.
    You have to re-educate it. Be fair but strict!

    DB

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    Quote Originally Posted by pingu View Post
    lovely ! i esp like the lick at 2.18 fab man
    That's my trademark "falling down the stairs" lick. It has appeared in my playing only recently.

    DB

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    Quote Originally Posted by Filmosound 621 View Post
    that is very true.

    my ES-125 wants to rock.
    above all it wants a L shaped plug

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    Quote Originally Posted by djg View Post
    above all it wants a L shaped plug
    Yes, angled plugs are better! The sides are pretty vulnerable, I see lots of ES-125s with repaired jack inputs (including mine), straight plugs are asking for trouble!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Filmosound 621 View Post

    That's perfection right there.

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    Unless you're playing a really bad instrument, it's the musician . . . not the guitar that makes the sound on an electric guitar. Guitarists are the worst instrument snobs I've ever met in music. There are more inept "musicians" playing "classic" instruments than the converse. The ES125 is a great working guitar and D's performance is a testament to my above remarks. Nice sound, D!
    Play live . . . Marinero

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marinero View Post
    Unless you're playing a really bad instrument, it's the musician . . . not the guitar that makes the sound on an electric guitar. Guitarists are the worst instrument snobs I've ever met in music. There are more inept "musicians" playing "classic" instruments than the converse. The ES125 is a great working guitar and D's performance is a testament to my above remarks. Nice sound, D!
    Play live . . . Marinero
    I agree.
    I bought an excellent guitar today because it was a great deal.
    It's not a joke.

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    Wow, 2 DB videos in one week!

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    I dug up that one.
    Man that performance was Blue-Eyes worthy, I don't know what the inspiration was but I was transported back in time at the Sands somehow. And what an acoustic sound that ES-125 has. This is one of my favorite standards and Live at the Sands one of my favorite albums.

    The illustrious ES-125 Dutch society inspired me last summer to reach out to Maurice Dupont and I ordered his Saint Louis model (ES-125 replica) which should be here soon. I have high expectations, among others of a good acoustic sound (I asked Maurice specifically about this), fingers crossed.

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    Really nice DB.
    Proof positive that tone is in the hands. An it doesnt hurt to have the word Gibson on the headstock.
    I wish growing up I would have listened to more players who played in this style. The lines would have been ingrained in my head and playing this way would have come naturally to me. But that is not the case, so the next best thing is to listen to guys like you play. I admire the groove you are in when you play. A strong, responsive guitar helps you sound, Thunkadelic!
    Keep it up DB. Life would not be as exciting if we didnt have contributions like yours on JGF!
    Joe D

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    Hi, DB,
    I liked your more relaxed, Bluesy approach to "Angel Eyes." Music is not just notes but the silence between the sound.
    Play live . . . Marinero

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    Quote Originally Posted by Max405 View Post
    Really nice DB.
    Proof positive that tone is in the hands. An it doesnt hurt to have the word Gibson on the headstock.
    I wish growing up I would have listened to more players who played in this style. The lines would have been ingrained in my head and playing this way would have come naturally to me. But that is not the case, so the next best thing is to listen to guys like you play. I admire the groove you are in when you play. A strong, responsive guitar helps you sound, Thunkadelic!
    Keep it up DB. Life would not be as exciting if we didnt have contributions like yours on JGF!
    Joe D
    "Thunkadelic" Ima totally stealing that! I hope you don't mind.

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    Quote Originally Posted by m_d View Post
    I dug up that one.
    Man that performance was Blue-Eyes worthy, I don't know what the inspiration was but I was transported back in time at the Sands somehow. And what an acoustic sound that ES-125 has. This is one of my favorite standards and Live at the Sands one of my favorite albums.

    The illustrious ES-125 Dutch society inspired me last summer to reach out to Maurice Dupont and I ordered his Saint Louis model (ES-125 replica) which should be here soon. I have high expectations, among others of a good acoustic sound (I asked Maurice specifically about this), fingers crossed.
    Hi MD,

    A yeah. I recorded that tune a couple of years ago to show how nice the 125 sounded unplugged. Glad you like it.

    Maurice Dupont ... I googled him and found your model! Looks great. Looking forward to seeing and hearing it!

    DB

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    Quote Originally Posted by Max405 View Post
    Really nice DB.
    Proof positive that tone is in the hands. An it doesnt hurt to have the word Gibson on the headstock.
    I wish growing up I would have listened to more players who played in this style. The lines would have been ingrained in my head and playing this way would have come naturally to me. But that is not the case, so the next best thing is to listen to guys like you play. I admire the groove you are in when you play. A strong, responsive guitar helps you sound, Thunkadelic!
    Keep it up DB. Life would not be as exciting if we didnt have contributions like yours on JGF!
    Joe D
    Thanks Max. For me single line playing was a logical extension from my past as a blues and pop guitarist! So I was used to improvising from the days of my teens. Even in the decades that I played in pop bands I was listening to jazz already. But the real study of it was much, much later.

    If you would like to learn some bop, why not get a teacher? It's never too late Max. You have the musicality already.

    DB

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    Quote Originally Posted by m_d View Post
    I dug up that one.
    Man that performance was Blue-Eyes worthy, I don't know what the inspiration was but I was transported back in time at the Sands somehow. And what an acoustic sound that ES-125 has. This is one of my favorite standards and Live at the Sands one of my favorite albums.

    The illustrious ES-125 Dutch society inspired me last summer to reach out to Maurice Dupont and I ordered his Saint Louis model (ES-125 replica) which should be here soon. I have high expectations, among others of a good acoustic sound (I asked Maurice specifically about this), fingers crossed.
    Just out of curiosity, do you remember what strings you likely had on it at the time? Electric or acoustic? Round or flat?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dutchbopper View Post
    Thanks Max. For me single line playing was a logical extension from my past as a blues and pop guitarist! So I was used to improvising from the days of my teens. Even in the decades that I played in pop bands I was listening to jazz already. But the real study of it was much, much later.
    If you would like to learn some bop, why not get a teacher? It's never too late Max. You have the musicality already.
    DB
    DB,
    That would be an option for sure. Time would be an issue. Maybe when I retire. Instead of building rockets.. I remember Patrick Amato telling me that his teacher (and my father's boyhood friend) Vinny Corrao, would be disgusted with him every time he showed up a week later for his lesson - unprepared. I have enough people pissed at me all the time, I dont need another! Plus, I know if I really really really wanted to, I could do it and do it convincingly on my own. But, I always prefer to learn another piece that will allow me to sit and entertain without the need for tracks or a band..
    In other words..
    That ship has sailed!
    Old dog, new tricks?? Naa... I'll just watch (and envy) you guys..
    Keep it up DB. Sounds really great.
    JD

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    Quote Originally Posted by ruger9 View Post
    Just out of curiosity, do you remember what strings you likely had on it at the time? Electric or acoustic? Round or flat?
    0.12 or possibly 0.11 TI Jazz swings (flatwounds) were on it when I recorded this.

    DB

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    Quote Originally Posted by Max405 View Post
    DB,
    That would be an option for sure. Time would be an issue. Maybe when I retire. Instead of building rockets.. I remember Patrick Amato telling me that his teacher (and my father's boyhood friend) Vinny Corrao, would be disgusted with him every time he showed up a week later for his lesson - unprepared. I have enough people pissed at me all the time, I dont need another! Plus, I know if I really really really wanted to, I could do it and do it convincingly on my own. But, I always prefer to learn another piece that will allow me to sit and entertain without the need for tracks or a band..
    In other words..
    That ship has sailed!
    Old dog, new tricks?? Naa... I'll just watch (and envy) you guys..
    Keep it up DB. Sounds really great.
    JD
    Fair enough. A man's gotta do what he's gotto do. In your case ... just do what you are good at to begin with!

    DB

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    Great playing and beautiful tone as always, Dick. I always enjoy hearing you play.

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    Thanks a lot, Dutchbopper! you prove to us that it is not necessary to have a $ 20,000 guitar to make good music, just talent... and some work !

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    Quote Originally Posted by JFranck View Post
    Thanks a lot, Dutchbopper! you prove to us that it is not necessary to have a $ 20,000 guitar to make good music, just talent... and some work !
    Thank you too. Yeah, you can play jazz on any guitar. The important thing is that you play one that inspires you so much that you love playing it. And inspiration and price tag are not necessarily connected in a linear way. I find my ES 125 - once sold as a student model - a very inspirational instrument.

    DB

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dutchbopper View Post
    I find my ES 125 - once sold as a student model - a very inspirational instrument.
    that is true, my '47 ES-125 has got a lot of songs in it, the music just keeps ringing out from it.

    "wrong kind" of music though.



    only joking, of course, I am getting there slowly, having fun with 2-5-1 in G maj in example.