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    no, it's not Merle Travis's or one of Kenny Burrell's
    granted, it's a beautiful example, but not sure how he came up w this price which is about 10 times what it's worth
    obviously fishing and/or just doesn't really want to sell
    there IS a best offer option though

    Gibson Super 400CES 1963 Natural | Richard's Gear Bazaar | Reverb

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    Maybe he hit an extra zero by mistake? An absurd asking price to be sure.

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    Beautiful for sure, but you could probably buy a '58, or '60 Les Paul for that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stringswinger
    Maybe he hit an extra zero by mistake? An absurd asking price to be sure.
    that's what I was thinking, but apparently not [the zero, not the absurd]

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    Doesn't even have a pickguard. That's worth like 248k tops.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mr. beaumont
    Doesn't even have a pickguard. That's worth like 248k tops.
    it does, but no mention of PAF's...

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    I may have been tempted, but it states "Local pick up only"
    So, adding my flight ticket to LA and back, plus loss on exchange rate ....
    I'll pass, sorry !

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    Maybe its Richard Geer's not Richard's Gear..
    JD

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    Quote Originally Posted by Max405
    Maybe its Richard Geer's not Richard's Gear..
    JD
    or Richard's Gear Bizzare

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    He forgot to add: For display purposes only.

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    heck, for that price you'd think he'd offer Free Shipping at least, lol!

    So if he actually sold it at that ridiculous price, what would tbe Reverb and paypal charges be?

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    Perhaps he doesn't really want to sell it, and needs to placate some unnamed party.

    Or he's just high or something.

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    THE CASE OF THE 1/4 MILLION DOLLAR SUPER 400
    I came here because I thought we would be discussing if it was original or SKB...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight Blues
    Beautiful for sure, but you could probably buy a '58, or '60 Les Paul for that?
    Or at least ten paf Super 400’s.
    Keith

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    It is a side effect of the democratization of selling instruments. It used to be that you bought an instrument from a dealer, if you wanted to sell it you consigned it with the dealer or traded it in on a new instrument. The dealer had a vested interest in balancing getting as much money as possible for an instrument versus never being able to sell it, and they had a very good idea of what prevailing prices were. Competition kept that down to some extent. Since virtually all archtop guitar sales seem to be online private seller situations except for a couple of specialist dealers, people's pricing is often driven by uninformed greed or cynical greed. People selling instruments this forum, for example, tend to be pretty well aware of what the marketable values of these instruments are. I think that's why we don't tend to see stupidly priced items very often.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Max405
    Maybe its Richard Geer's not Richard's Gear..
    JD
    When he sold off most of his collection, there were a few nice pieces but it was mostly player's versions with lots of mods and priced appropriately for what they were.

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    And for that price he can't even provide a photo of the label that's even close to being in focus.

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    It’s the rarest and finest ever made! Even with the stripey spruce top and plain Jane maple back. Geez Louise. Does it have PAFs? At that price let’s hope so.

    I agree that it should be under $45K, but I’m not an expert.

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    I'm really surprised that the PG is intact. It's nearly a half-century old. And the tuners look really shiny. Has this instrument been played?

    Oh wait! I see he (or someone) paid almost a thousand dollars for it!

    It's inflation!

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    You can't fault someone for just asking, it could happen.

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    I NEVER take these ads at face value - the seller def. knows what he's got and makes it public. Eventually a serious buyer will come in and a mutually agreeable price will be discussed. The high asking price keeps away the tire-kickers etc. I remember seeing the ad for a blonde acoustic Super-400 Premier (first issue with a cutaway) on Gbase for at least 10 (!!!) years in a row - it's an age old marketing ploy. If I were ever to sell my own Super400 I'd ASK for $ 18000 and settle for $ 12000

    Re the guitar in question : it's a nice piece with some interesting features - the 3-piece neck is a left-over one from an older batch, right in between the switch from 3 to 5 piece but it already has the newer headstock shape. If the hardware incl. the pickguard is indeed all 100% original then it was very likely never played but stored in a dry and safe place. BTW, the mottled pg on my own '63 Super (#75597) also looks like new, no shrinkage, no warping, no decay.

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    It's just a 1963 Super 400 ... For it to be a 1/4 million dollar Super 400 someone needs to buy it first

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    Quote Originally Posted by gitman
    I NEVER take these ads at face value - the seller def. knows what he's got and makes it public. Eventually a serious buyer will come in and a mutually agreeable price will be discussed. The high asking price keeps away the tire-kickers etc. I remember seeing the ad for a blonde acoustic Super-400 Premier (first issue with a cutaway) on Gbase for at least 10 (!!!) years in a row - it's an age old marketing ploy. If I were ever to sell my own Super400 I'd ASK for $ 18000 and settle for $ 12000

    Re the guitar in question : it's a nice piece with some interesting features - the 3-piece neck is a left-over one from an older batch, right in between the switch from 3 to 5 piece but it already has the newer headstock shape. If the hardware incl. the pickguard is indeed all 100% original then it was very likely never played but stored in a dry and safe place. BTW, the mottled pg on my own '63 Super (#75597) also looks like new, no shrinkage, no warping, no decay.

    ..I'm not sure where you learned your marketing, but mis-pricing something for sale at the same hopelessly wrong price for ten years and counting, is nowhere near an ' age old marketing ploy '. It's a textbook example of how not to attract a buyer. It's also a pretty fair indication of a seller who's unreasonable and that your time as a buyer would be better spent looking for what you want to buy from someone you at least have a chance to reason with.

    Or put another way - -if and when you ever choose to sell your home and the RE agent suggests listing it for $40 million, hoping to sell it for $400,000. I'd suggest finding another agent.....But hey, if time is no issue at all, and you're not getting older like I am - - -

    Just my 2 cents......

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dennis D
    ..I'm not sure where you learned your marketing, but mis-pricing something for sale at the same hopelessly wrong price for ten years and counting, is nowhere near an ' age old marketing ploy '. It's a textbook example of how not to attract a buyer. It's also a pretty fair indication of a seller who's unreasonable and that your time as a buyer would be better spent looking for what you want to buy from someone you at least have a chance to reason with.

    Or put another way - -if and when you ever choose to sell your home and the RE agent suggests listing it for $40 million, hoping to sell it for $400,000. I'd suggest finding another agent.....But hey, if time is no issue at all, and you're not getting older like I am - - -

    Just my 2 cents......

    Nah ... His wife has just insisted that he has too many guitars and needs to put one up for sale, so he has done that (Stolen from another comment a few days ago .. Can't remember who's tho)