-
Anybuddy get a nice satisfying jazz tone out of these guitars?
-
03-04-2021 11:47 AM
-
Dan Wilson sure did from a 446 (similar construction, but single cutaway), but he has moved on to a Benedetto now.
-
I think the tone is fine, but the sustain is more significant than that from a carved, acoustic archtop. If you've been on the archtop consistently, you'll have to adjust a bit.
-
Originally Posted by mr. beaumont
Last edited by Hammertone; 03-04-2021 at 10:15 PM.
-
Originally Posted by Hoots
My CS356 is constructed very similarly to my Heritage Millennium Eagle. Both have a Mahogany core, sandwiched between a carved Maple top/bottom. Both Gibson and Heritage consider these body types "semi-solid". Based on my experience with each of these guitars, I'd consider their tones are very, very close to one another....but neither has a thick, dark jazz tone.
Gibson CS-336/356 construction:
Heritage Millennium models (H-155, Ultra and Eagle) construction:
Here's a video of Wolfgang Muthspiel performing on his Heritage Millennium Eagle as an example of his jazz tone.
-
There's no reason that shouldn't be a much more common way of construction, given modern CNC techniques. (Heck you don't even need CNC, just a router with a template.) Really, the bended thin wood sides only benefit a small number of electric players who want a fully hollow guitar.
I remember a lot of discussion years ago about a Carvin model (no pun intended) that was constructed similarly.
-
Originally Posted by Gitfiddler
since you have one, can you verify that the back is a separate piece glued to the rims? Does it have internal bracing on the rims?
-
Originally Posted by HarryPm
The back, sides, and center block are carved from one solid piece of Mahogany, then a maple top is carved with a block on the underside as well and the two are mated together.
-
Originally Posted by Gitfiddler
-
Originally Posted by HarryPm
The front is so stunning, I never paid much attention to its backside.
This is the rear of another CS-356 that I sold. The multi-layer binding is beautifully done.
-
Awesome photos and super guitars!
Actually I was confused by that video at around 5:02. I saw the internal braces at the rims and they seem to be like the laminate construction type. Just like a 335, 359.
-
The four smaller guitars are the ones I've been using to play rock & pop for the last 16-18 years. I play the Johnny A's more only because I prefer the longer scale, but all four are in steady rotation. My first semi was an ES-355 in 1962 and I've had about a dozen of them over the years, but at the turn of this century I started wishing for something smaller and lighter and Gibson came out with the CS-356. It's not a smaller 3X5 (the ES-359 is much closer) but after a gig or two with one, I stopped noticing that and enjoyed it for what it is. Having nice carved-top hollowbodies, I don't use my semi's for jazz, but I certainly could, especially since players use Teles, Strats and Les Pauls, or even Jaguars as I've posted here before.
If the question is "Does this sound like a fully hollow-body guitar with a carved solid spruce top?" then the answer is NO! If the question is "Can I get a satisfying jazz tone from one?" then I'd say "Depends on you!"
Danny W.Last edited by Danny W.; 03-06-2021 at 01:06 AM.
-
Originally Posted by Gitfiddler
-
Originally Posted by Danny W.
-
Originally Posted by Donplaysguitar
Please Delete.
Today, 06:37 AM in The Players