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    This popped up on ebay the other day and I jumped at a nice bargain ! It's a 2009 model, in mint condition and all original parts.
    The workmanship, fit and finish is just about perfect, the controls have a really useable taper and the Schaller pups deliver a full,
    warm and balanced tone. I was surprised at the extraordinary sustain this guitar has while still retaining the typical semi-hollowbody
    characteristics in regards to the quick response and a woody and ever so slightly nasal tone. The body is thinner than your
    standard 335-type but has a 16" width which is comfortable for me. The sustain-block is made out of spruce and has a curious curved
    shape : underneath the floating (!) bridge it fans out a bit and quickly tapers back to maybe 2,5" - I can't see if it goes through to the tailblock.
    The Bigsby is a welcome addition and even though this guitar has the standard Hofner bridge design it doesn't have any tuning issues when
    used lightly. No need for a roller bridge I think. The guitar has some heft to it but it's not HEAVY- in the sturdy case however you have
    more than a handfull... Compared to my '63 ES-345 this one has a slightly fuller tone, the 345 cuts a bit more but all in all there is not
    really that much difference. Except in price/value....
    Anyone looking for a pro-level semi should have a look-see at this IF you can find one. Great bang-for-the-buck, timeless design and solid
    tone + playability. My only issue is with the fugly and cheap-looking plastic pickguard - this needs to be replaced soon with a home-made
    one , either in some black wood (stained maple ?) or fake tortoiseshell- a nice project for the coming weeks !
    Attached Images Attached Images Hofner Thin President-img_1997-jpg 

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    There’s B-stock (finish checking) Thin President on reverb for $1300 and change. For another $700 there’s a Verythin Classic, which is well below the price I normally see them listed at.

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    2008 - they skipped the letter I because it looks like the number 1. And they skipped the letter O because it looks like the number 0.

    These are excellent guitars, but, yeah, those pickguards are utterly lame.

    Here's what the spruce block looks like, below. It was designed to accommodate the bushings for a Schaller Nashville-style bridge, and/or a stop tailpiece, and/or a Bigsby. When Hofner stopped making the Thin President as a carved-top, hollow version of the New President, and also stopped making the Verythin Classic, they combined features of the two models for this updated version of the Thin President.

    Some early ones have Hofner mini-humbuckers, most have Hofner-branded full-sized set-in humbuckers, supplied by Schaller until Schaller left the pickup business.
    Some have floating bridges, most have set-in bridges.
    Some have trapeze tailpieces, most have licensed Bigsby B-70 (made in China) tailpieces.
    Only a handful were made in natural finish. Most were made in opaque colours, typically black or white. There are a few in wild colours and wild wood.

    The model is still shown on the Hofner website, here:
    Hofner Quality

    The listed specifications, typical of Hofner, are almost correct (the top is not carved, but laminated).
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    Last edited by Hammertone; 07-04-2020 at 06:04 PM.

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    Good catch! As a '06 trapeze / mini hb version owner, I agree with the body dimensions striking a good balance between acoustics and comfort.

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    Great picture. Funny, when looking inside, I'm not seeing a center tone block like that on mine. Rather it looks like couple ~0.5" thick braces the top is glued to. It's a '06 Stuehlein trapeze / mini humbucker version. Did they change that later?

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    Hammertone,
    what is the difference between the licenced Bigsby's and the genuine ones ? Reading the specs on the Hofner page I detect one other - minor - discrepancy :
    this one has normal pots without the switching option .
    I guess they just didn't adhere too strictly to the officially stated specs and simply built the guitars with the parts they had ready in the shop at the time -Thomas Stühlein in this instance....
    no biggie, others have done so since the beginning.

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    as per bigsby...in usa they are sandcast aluminum...hands on old school process...labor costs...asian made bigsbys are die cut...high initial cost to set up the machinery, but then spits them out...probably more uniform qc since there is less room for human error

    on your guitar, the biggest difference is that the mounting bracket that connects to the rim of the guitar is not the same...so requires new holes to be drilled...thats the difference, say, between a b7 usa and a b-70 asian made (that's on your hofner)...


    also the usa models allow for more options regarding replacing the actual whammy bar/arm..there are quite a few variations!! but thats for bigsby fanatics !! haha

    cheers

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    Quote Originally Posted by gitman
    what is the difference between the licenced Bigsby's and the genuine ones ?
    As described by neatomic. They are all "genuine" - one happens to be made in the US and the other in China. In the '60s, licensed Bigsbys were also made in England, FWIW - whole other story.

    The stock mounting bracket on the B-7 does not fit the rims of a Verythin - it is too deep. The stock mounting bracket on the B-70 does fit a Verythin. Hofner introduced the Bigsby onto some "limited" Verythin models, almost all Chinese-made models. So they used B-70 Bigsbys. They could have switched to B-7 Bigsbys once they started making the Thin President semis, since they have deeper rims, but they chose not to do so.

    Interestingly enough, the stock mounting bracket on the American-made B-12 also fits the rims of a Verythin. In addition to being more costly that a B-70, it's entirely possible that the old people at Hofner don't know what a Bigsby B-12 is. When I retrofit Bigsbys to German-made Verythins, I use the B-12 (see below).

    Quote Originally Posted by gitman
    this one has normal pots without the switching option.
    Your guitar was built 12 years ago. The specs on the Hofner site are theoretically for the current version.

    Here's a B-12 on a Hofner Verythin Classic:
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    Last edited by Hammertone; 07-04-2020 at 10:30 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by raal
    Great picture. Funny, when looking inside, I'm not seeing a center tone block like that on mine. Rather it looks like couple ~0.5" thick braces the top is glued to. It's a '06 Stuehlein trapeze / mini humbucker version. Did they change that later?
    Yes. The Thinline President switched from
    -carved top, hollowbody, venetian cutway, then
    -laminated top, early block, venetian cutway, then
    -laminated top. large block (as shown in the photo), venetian cutway.
    Subsequently, they made a few with
    -laminated-top hollowbody florentine cutway, then a few with
    -laminated-top, large block, florentine cutway
    The current/standard version has a laminated-top, large block, venetian cutway.

    Hofner makes very few of these, typically in batches of 6 or so, and they are quite handmade, so, over the past 14 years, there have been variations in the details of the block, rim depth, and other details. @raal - post a picture of yours!

    I've kept one for myself - a 2014 with laminated-top, hollowbody, florentine cutway:
    Attached Images Attached Images Hofner Thin President-hof-tp-q12043-florentine-white-sbc-jpg 
    Last edited by Hammertone; 07-05-2020 at 07:23 PM.

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    Huge dynamic range with TI jazz swing 13's. Humbuckers tilted in their rings to compensate for strong bass. The adjustable poles also help to balance B and E strings volumes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by raal
    Good catch! As a '06 trapeze / mini hb version owner, ...
    Quote Originally Posted by raal
    Great picture. Funny, when looking inside, I'm not seeing a center tone block like that on mine. Rather it looks like couple ~0.5" thick braces the top is glued to. It's a '06 Stuehlein trapeze / mini humbucker version. Did they change that later?
    raal, your guitar was built in 2004 - hollow, carved spruce top. This is the first version of the Thin President. It should have one single brace running down the bass side of the top.
    Attached Images Attached Images Hofner Thin President-hof-tp-e12063-raal-lo-jpg 
    Last edited by Hammertone; 07-07-2020 at 08:08 AM.

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    Thanks for the insights Hammertone. At closer inspection, it appears there's brace visible through the treble f-hole so this is correct, only one brace. I was told the top is spruce. It is my very first archtop, a December '17 purchase through local Craigslist for $1,275.

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    Nice. A carved-top instrument, serious pro gear, hand-made in Germany, with Schaller hardware, for $1,275. Hahahahahahaha. These are excellent guitars. You did well.
    Last edited by Hammertone; 07-07-2020 at 08:07 AM.