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Gibson classic beauty: dark cherry 330
Damn that’s so pretty.
you and your son playing make this a great thread.
enjoy, long life...
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05-18-2020 12:42 AM
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Looks great!
Whether you want the extra room on the treble side, bass side or neither, depends on your playing style.
I have had one guitar (D'A EXDC) on which I tended to pull the low E off the fingerboard. My luthier told me to give it time, and, eventually, I stopped doing it.
Played it for years without any work on it.
So, I'd say, leave it alone. It's isn't a problem until you can't get used to it and it hampers your playing. At that point, it isn't a big job to adjust the string locations, if you need to.
BTW, the fact that it lines up over the polepieces suggests that it's intentional for the reasons others have suggested. If you had to move the string location I doubt very much that a slight misalignment over the pole pieces would be audible.
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I like the yellowing on the binding... lovely
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Originally Posted by dreamingJazz
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I am a long time fan of the 330, long enough to have some particular tastes on the details.
I had a 1960s 330 that your guitar was based on and gigged with it happily. That's how I was introduced to the techniques of feedback control. The lightness of it is a pleasure.
From an aesthetic perspective I like the block inlays more than the dots. There have been times in dark concert halls and bars where the blocks helped.
I'm not a fan of the VOS treatment, but I don't mind it either. It's peculiar though in that as the guitar wears, the VOS gunk comes off and the hardware looks newer. It's like Benjamin Button. I personally wouldn't pay extra for it, but obviously others would.
Here is a pic of Heritage's Artisan Aged 535. Some go for it.
The chrome pickup covers look nice. Apparently they filter out some of the higher frequencies. That may be a good thing, but some replace them with black plastic. I kept the metal on mine.
All in all, the 330 is a professional instrument that should serve you well the rest of your life. It's worth the investment. Congrats.
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Originally Posted by dreamingJazz
Yes, much better!
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Originally Posted by dreamingJazz
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Originally Posted by citizenk74
Originally Posted by Bezoeker
Originally Posted by rolijen
this is how I set up my teles; both vintage spec, note how close the E and e to the edge of the board:
Untitled by D Y, on Flickr
Untitled by D Y, on Flickr
I’ve been playing vintage spec teles for years and years so I guess you could say I got used to that and whenever i have a problem with string alignment, I just unscrew-rescrew. But this is a set neck, so you guys can understand how it gets into my head. Lol.
Anyway, I see all of your points, it actually doesnt affect anything, when in fact, the wider nut width, wider neck and wider string spacing has more of an effect to me and my playing style than the E-to-e spacing on the edge of the fretboard.. Vintage spec teles have 42mm nut width and narrower neck on the 12th fret.
now that you guys have pointed it out, it doesnt look so bad now that I look at it. I have you guys to thank you for that! I see other Gibsons that are much worse and some which have all the strings closer to the treble side and if thats the case with mine, it’s definitely going back.
and yes, I can stare at it for hours if I can. I can play all day but i have a bub and I have work and house chores lol. Its a constant battle as im working from home because of restrictions and this guitar is just beside me in its case. Lol.
also, on the other hand, I did look at getting an Archtop Tribute from Japan or a Seventy-Seven Exrubato. Those guitars wouldve been perfect in every way and of course maybe have the tone, but I’m 5 years away from being 40 and I wanted to at least experience the Gibson side of life while I still can and have the means to get it!
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Originally Posted by christianm77
Originally Posted by christianm77
the mild gloss on the body and neck was second.
i definitely love the VOS treatment on the finish.
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Originally Posted by Marty Grass
what started the love affair is when I got a MIC Casino. Man, I loved that guitar but the quality was lacking. Although the sound and playability was great, it felt cheap, and fit and finish was not something i can live with. I vowed to get a better version and better made one. i couldve bought a Japanese elitist, or a vintage Japan casino, or even an Archtop Tribute/Seventy Seven, but I wanted a Gibson, even just once in my life, and experience it. So the 330 it is.
also, i’m very particular on the shape. I dont like the sharper horns on a 64 re-issue. The same goes for any 60’s ES-3xx that doesnt have the mickey mouse rounded horns. So that eliminated most of the options like Eastman, Casinos, etc.. but suprisingly, I like the Heritage take on the horns, but not enough to buy one. So I went with a Gibson as it did resemble a 62, including all the details, like chrome/nickel covers, black top hats reflector knobs, black pickguard, block in-lays, white button tuners, and of course, the cherry red color. It was 500 dollars more than the standard non-VOS color, but luckily the VOS option appealed to me so much that i did not regret spending more. And-
Like i said in my post, i had the option to get the other standard Memphis im sunburst, but I am not sold on it. To me, an ES should be in Cherry red. Thats just my preference. The other color id like it to be is Black.
i learned that the metal covers do filter out the highs through the Casino I owned, but surprisingly, the MHS spec P90’s are bright enough for me, very vintage-y and unlike the hot as hell P90s on the Casino (which i loved and was expecting) and it was wired with 550k (some tolerances maybe) pots from factory so i have no problem with the highs. Some minor adjustments with my amp and pedals, I’m in the zone already. I did tweak the pole pieces to level the volume of each string though. My only gripe is that i have the common problem of having a boomy neck pickup which i have to dial down to 7 in order to match the volume output of the bridge. Im guessing, live, when we play loud, it wont really matter that much, but playing bedroom levels, its very noticeable. But im planning to get some shims for the bridge as thats the cheapest fix to balance out the volume between two pickups. I wont change the pickups as I love the tone of it through my rig and very much resemble my telecaster single coils-on sterioids. I’ll probably buy some black covers if I get bored of the chrome look in the future. Heheh.
believe it or not, I sold most of my guitars now, yes, including my number 1 and number 2 teles. I’m already seeing myself using this a lot and i’m okay for it to be the only guitar I own and use. (Makes life a bit simpler at the moment)
from being a Fender nut and a tele addict, I have been converted to the dark side, lol. I’m already planning to get an ES-335 or wait a bit longer and aim for a CS ES-295.
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Originally Posted by Woody SoundOriginally Posted by Woody Sound
i have been able to justify this one as Im selling everything now, so she doesnt have a problem with it. But the challenge now is, i want another Gibson, and I wont be able to tell her that its just another 700-1500 dollar guitar (which is the most that buy from Fender and I show her the price).. any tips??? Hahahaha
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Nice - big congrats. I have a 2013 VOS and love mine. If it didn’t have a tool mark or a little something it wouldn’t be a Gibson. As long as it plays well it’s all good. I think the little guy likes it too. Great picture. Enjoy.
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Originally Posted by citizenk74
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Nice - big congrats. I have a 2013 VOS and love mine. If it didn’t have a tool mark or a little something it wouldn’t be a Gibson. As long as it plays well it’s all good. I think the little guy likes it too. Great picture. Enjoy.
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Enjoy playing your beautiful new Gibson. Leave the alignment alone.
More importantly though, your family photos are terrific.
Thanks for posting.
Tony D.
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I have owned many guitars to include at east 15 Gibsons. When you get a good one they are "great" and there is nothing like it. Appears you have one of those.
Congrats...great photos BTW.
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Originally Posted by 73Fender
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Originally Posted by 73Fender
the way I see it now, its not so bad at all, and it plays amazing anyway.
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Originally Posted by pilotony
i am seeing that the alignment is not so bad. I’ll talk to my luthier once he opens and see where we can get the playability, frets level, and nut work better than what I have now.
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Originally Posted by bohemian46
The quality and construction, fit and finish is astounding, except some of the minor issues I have on the tooling marks and paint bleeds on f-holes, and string alignment.
it’ll be super hard to find another one like it as these are quite limited in numbers (100 made based on spec sheet), and it’s the last one for sale here in Australia.
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Originally Posted by dreamingJazz
1. It is far more likely (for reasons already noted) that a little extra room from the string to the fret end is often more useful on the high E vs. the low E.
2. When playing on the upper frets, you are far more likely to be playing the high E vs. the low E (for a number of musical and Newtonian physical reasons).
3. For the majority of players, an arguably ideal setup would have equal distances of the E strings to the fret ends at the nut and gradually more bias for distance on the high E to the fret end as you move to higher frets.
4. Your current condition is, for most players, ideal - rather than “not so bad”.
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Originally Posted by Bezoeker
yes, i see that now, and I’ve been playing it everyday and I see the sense of it all!
I actually dont feel its an issue anymore.. (thanks to you guys).. the string spacing on the nut is very good and equal on both sides of the board, its just cut incorrectly (too low) so it would need to be replaced and cut correctly for 11’s.
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Lollar Shims came! Now my bridge has bite and balanced with the neck pickup. I did put the thinnest shim on the neck and the medium + thin on the bridge. Neck booms beautifully, and the bridge screams. Untitled by D Y, on FlickrUntitled by D Y, on FlickrUntitled by D Y, on FlickrUntitled by D Y, on Flickr
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