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I’m curious what people think something like this would do do the value of an otherwise perfect late fifties Gibson. Do you see the letters (you can make out “Y” upside down but there are a couple more by the switch)? Unimportant? Critical? The seller hasn’t mentioned this in the listing but I spotted it in the photos. I think someone put a couple of decals on this at one point and left them on too long, permanently marring the nitro.
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11-26-2019 10:12 AM
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I see at least 3, definitely reduces the value a bit.
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It is just like any usual wear and tear and what you can live with. Value is always thought of from the standpoint to mint original and sometimes I think that works against everyone. Sure it would better not to be there but has no negative structural issue, might be able to buff it out or clean up easily. The guitar is over 60 years old and does it play well and sound good? If so then frankly just buy it for what it is worth to you guitars are horrible investments really.
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Mark, I get you. In fact, I prefer a player over a collectible piece for sure. I can live with the imperfections because it makes it easier on the conscience to take the guitar out to rehearsals and gigs. I just don't want to pay collectible price for a player. I appreciate your perspective. Nonetheless, I think this is a bit off topic. My question was very specific.
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Maybe 10-15% discount from a VG value. What is the guitar and what is the ask$?
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1957 Gibson ES-175DN. $10k.
My stomach churns as I read that aloud, lol.
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My 1,000,000 cents:
If you had held it and said, "With this, I am Retired From Buying* " then the barely visible "Johnny Nerd" decal residue wouldn't matter.
If you're buying online, there will be pictures of other $10,000 ES-175s.
Good luck and give thanks for the InterWebz!
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I've held it. Hence the dilemma!
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Price reduction - perhaps $2.50 per letter.
In my world, there's no 60-year-old plywood guitar that's worth $10,000.
Maybe if the Pope owned it and Jim Hall and Joe Pass played it simultaneously.
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I wonder if that can just be sanded out and buffed.
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Originally Posted by Tal_175
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Originally Posted by D'Aquisto Fan
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Originally Posted by Tal_175
Anyway. Spoke to the seller and they were reasonable. Deal made. NGD.
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Strange thing is, a typical several million dollars worth "original" Stradivari violin would have gone through more intrusive repairs many times during it's life time.
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Originally Posted by omphalopsychos
Congratulations, enjoy it.
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$10,000? That is a lot of money!
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Congratulations. Looking forward to the pics...
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Originally Posted by Tal_175
Oh, and congratulations to Omphalopsychos!
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Originally Posted by D'Aquisto Fan
The context was my statement:
"I would personally find a vintage guitar with random letter shaped marks on it less desirable than one with minor local cosmetic finish repair."
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really depends on your negotiating skills...if you want to turn it into a big deal..then certainly you could get a price reduction for a "marred" guitar...seller obviously knows its there, and doesn't mention it..so that shows he's sensitive to it
good chance that some naptha on cloth would wipe it away without affecting nitro..but don't tell seller!! haha
haggle on
of course it could also turn out from the letters, that the guitar belonged to a famous player, and jack the price up!!! haha
cheers
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Originally Posted by neatomic
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If I had to bet (and I don't), that finish could be wet sanded, resprayed with a touch of antique natural tint if needed, and resprayed with clear. In 5-10 years of sun exposure you may not even see any difference where the touch up was. I have personal experience with this!
The other goofball who put a sticker on his guitar is this guy. Sheesh.
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Originally Posted by Marty Grass
I know Gibson made him a couple L-5s w/pearl inlaid in that spot as his old Alnico model had wear from his finger there.
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Originally Posted by Marty Grass
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yes, that was there to circumvent wes wearing a hole thru the archtop...no vanity involved!!! haha
till later-
cheers
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