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Originally Posted by Tal_175
Is this different enough for both to thrive? Remains to be seen...
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10-28-2019 04:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Gitfiddler
PRRI with 12" CR Speaker
DVMark Micro 50
DVMark Micro 50+ Polytone Pedal
Quilter Interblock 45
SuperChamp X2 Head model for Twin and Princeton
Polytone Minibrute II
A Laney Style EL84 15 watt amp
The Tone Master definitely rises above all but the Princeton, which I have so many biases for I doubt I'm qualified to compare. I also LOVE all these other amps. But the TMTR is seriously good. I actually love the Reverb on the Tone Master. It's digital reverb done really right, IMO.
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Wow pleasantly surprised to hear that the TMTR was #2. I need another amp like I need a third nose, but I’m mighty tempted.
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Originally Posted by wzpgsr
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This thread is very helpful Lawson. I am currently trying to decide between a PRRI and one of the Tone Masters. As I noted in the other thread, I have A/B'd them myself and did not feel that one was necessarily better than the other, but I did feel that the PRRI sounded slightly more present and "real" (analog? tube-y?) than the Tone Master (the Deluxe in this case). That said, I have to have an attenuator and line out. So I'm currently trying to decide if I should buy a PRRI (with the 12" CR speaker) and one of the better attenuator/line out boxes (Tone King Ironman, Koch Dummybox, etc.), or a Tone Master (either DR or TR - that's a separate decision). Given those options, if you could only have one, which would you choose?
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Originally Posted by conchmusic
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Originally Posted by lawson-stone
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Originally Posted by ruger9
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Originally Posted by lawson-stone
BUT... I would also do a brown tolex one, a western tolex one, or even a black one if it were cheap enough... mainly I want the 12" baffle already installed, so I don't have to change it myself.
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It would be interesting to see where Fender goes with the firmware updates for these amps. I'm really close to putting either a Twin or Deluxe on layby. I've not tried the Twin, but I tried the Deluxe and was really impressed.
It sounded far better than the Deluxe Reverb RI I used to use back when I was studying. That thing was horrible - mind you, that amp was probably poorly maintained and likely biased poorly etc. so it's really unfair to compare them. The Tonemaster Deluxe sounded beautiful.
Like the tube deluxe reverb, the TM is very bright, it's that 'bright cap' being simulated. It would be cool if Fender made firmware updates that for example modelled the Deluxe with the bright cap clipped.
At this stage I'm heading more towards the TM Twin, I like the more flexible EQ. Apparently its weight is close to my Quilter Aviator Twin Ten. That's very appealing.Last edited by entresz; 10-29-2019 at 08:38 PM.
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Originally Posted by entresz
Serious question...I'm not very knowledgeable about firmware, etc.
The flexibility of the EQ is drawing me toward the TM TR also.
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Originally Posted by entresz
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Have you tried next to a Quilter with 2x12 cab?
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Originally Posted by jads57
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Continuing to try to capture the difference "in the room" between the TMTR and the PRRI, I hit on the easiest way: just record with my phone, crummy mic and all. Below is the clip of the same 90 seconds or so of playing through each amp. I set the TMTR attenuator to 12W to match the PRRI volume, reverbs about the same. Just put the iPhone in a bracket and hit "record."
I've not ID'd the amps. That's not to make it a "test" but simply to help us think about how each sounds, how they are different. Of course it's fun to guess, so have at it if you wish.
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I won't hazard a guess, but I preferred the tone of the first amp.
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Same here. I'm not in love with either, but the first one does sound better to me, softer and less harsh.
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To Lawson and all who have contributed to this great thread (and the sister thread a few lines down.
The latest step-change in my chemio therapy has produced persistently high temperatures whose source is yet undetermined.
4 days so far in hospital plus probably 3/4 days to come, gives me time to read, listen and reflect on points of view that are mostly objective and honest in their intentions - it’s a pleasure to see a series of posts like these from knowledgeable and respectful informed and generous people.
Reflecting around these posts has helped me to make a choice on the replacement amp for my main amp, a 2008 Princeton Recording (deceased) , and it will be the Tonemaster Deluxe Recording.
Once again, it’s great to be part of a forum where people are (mostly) there to generously share as opposed to insisting that only they have “the right answer”.
THANK YOU TO ALL THE FORUM FOR HONEST AND FAIR INPUT ON WHAT HAD THE POTENTIAL TO BE A PRETTY POLEMIC SUBJECT.
(PS wish I had a silent guitar whilst I’m in hospital....)Last edited by Ray175; 11-03-2019 at 12:01 PM.
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I do too! Or a loud one. I hate to see someone ill and incapacitated. I wish you a speedy recovery. Hang in there mon ami.
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I’ve appreciated every post and found the conversation helpful indeed. So glad that in your personal pain and illness you’ve had some pleasure and thoughts reading the thread. We easily forget the human realities behind the online personas and you’ve given us a good reality check.
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Hi,
I wonder if I can ask you a question? I just bought a Twin Tonemaster. Really liking it. I'm wondering, though, about the mid knob. It seems to me that it doesn't really change the tone between 1 and 5 and 5 and 10. I notice a change when it's on 1 or 10, and 5, but nothing much else. Is this normal? The bass and treble work all across. Maybe it's because I'm not used to a Mid knob.
Thanks.
Greg
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On mine there is a difference between 1 and 10, but the slope seems different. Of course, Fendeers are famous for that mid-scoop so that might be affecting the way the mids control works. I normally set my at V6, T6, M6, B3, R3 and adjust with the output selector on the back for volume, plus the guitar volume which I usually keep on about 6 when playing through the TMTR.
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Thank you. That's helpful.
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Originally Posted by lawson-stone
(Seems the output selector almost functions as a master volume, so the next Tone Master Twin wil probably a Silverface with master volume ;-)
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Originally Posted by Little Jay
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