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A couple year ago I built a series of fully hollow telecasters. I love the form of the tele but also love the "attack and decay" envelope of the archtop. I know you can get kind a close with a light touch: I wanted to see if it was possible to cop some of the sound. So made a few till I got one that sounded like I wanted, which is something of the tone of an archtop, the sharp attack and shorter decay. I posted a thread about it which I'll try to dig up.
Meanwhile I decided to try again. I reasoned like this: The archtop was originally designed to get loud acoustic volume for someone like Eddie Lang. when amps were invented they kept that form even though acoustic volume was not the main thing. An ES 175 substituted plywood for solid wood, for that reason, but still kept the form of a traditional acoustic archtop. Could I make something that got that tone easily and cheaply by ignoring the history of loud acoustic tone?
I built a hollow guitar out of baltic birch plywood, using a mold I had from another project. It has an oversize neck and tailblock, partly so it won't be a neck-diver
It has one honkin big brace, because all the down force is at one spot, and also because there isn't a lot of down force. I deliberately made it with a shallow break angle, partly because I wanted to use a simple bolt-neck construction style
Here you can see I just use a tele neck template I had on hand and built a two piece neck with a walnut fingerboard and a walnut center stripe
Here you can see I made the neck pocket shallower than typical, to account for archtop-style bridge
Since this is an experiment, I went with quick and dirtyLast edited by PB+J; 10-24-2018 at 04:03 PM.
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10-24-2018 03:27 PM
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It sounded pretty good "in the white," with no pickup. I was surprised how loud it was, actually. It's loud enough so that if I play it while my wife is asleep upstairs, it will wake her up.
I forgot to add it's a shallow guitar, just a bit thicker than a telecaster.
My model here is maybe those old Kays, or Danelectros, so I finished it in shellac with a retro vibe
I put a matte finish on the tailpiece and made a faux-tortoise pickguard out of casting resin and dye
After a lot of deliberation I went for a Lollar "Charlie Christian for tele" pickup. I'm more and more thinking one or two dog ear p90s might have been a better choice
Here is is overall. The tele neck is odd, but it's a very good neck so it's staying for now. If I build another one it will have a 3 on a side headstock and a neck heel, for a more conventional look.
And here's what it sounds like, recorded into a Henricksen jazzamp 110 combo with a little bit o' reverb. Please excuse my sloppy playing. It's just a rough demo to give a sense of how the guitar sounds
Travl'n light
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Thanks for this. I would be really interested to see your tele's as am thinking about getting/making a hollow neck pickup only Tele, cheers Simon
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Originally Posted by jockster
Hi Simon:
The whole process is detailed here: hollow tele version three | Telecaster Guitar Forum
If you read that thread you can find links to thread that describe the earlier experiments.
I made one more after that one with the spruce top, this time with a maple top and back. It's a bit less archtoppy" than the spruce one, but the spruce one is in the shop, because it was underbraced--as I feared, the string pull was warping the top, pushing it down at the front of the tele neck plate. I need to put a brace in there.
It's not hard--the hardest part is probably routing out the body, which I really hate. With the tops I keep them thick, like 1/4, because I'm not gong for big acoustic volume and I'm assuming it will be played amplified when there are other people involved
Below is a short clip of a maple body hollow tele with a 1/4 inch maple top and a p90 in the neck position. The clip was recorded through the henricksen
Hollow body tele
It's this guitar:
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Even if it does look quite a bit like an odd bird, somehow my gut tells me it's a tone-monster! Just don't ask me why...
Any clips?
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Originally Posted by LtKojak
Yes see above and here:
Travl'n light
It has thomastick jazz flats on it, 12 on the top
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Thanks very much PB+J, much appreciated
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nice work...looks & sounds cool!!
cheers
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Originally Posted by PB+J
Is it feedback-prone, may I ask? I don't expect it to be, but I'm asking anyway.
I would happily take it to a studio to do some slow jazz-blues comps and vamps, (through a '65 Twinreverb would be ideal) the most adequate type of music for this guitar specifically, if I'm allowed to comment.
Good job, man. Enjoy it for many years to come in good health!
Yours very truly,
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Great job! Sounds fine, too! Thanks for sharing.
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Love this kind of projects!
I would be tempted to route some f-holes in the top (but the brace would be in the way I guess). I think it would look great with a snake-head tele neck, but hey, if this one works, it works!
Sounds very distinct too! I love it quite a bit, great old school vibe. Good job!
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Originally Posted by Little Jay
Thank you all, it's fun to experiment!
Yes a snakehead neck would look better I agree. I also am bothered by the lack of a heel--it just seems wrong on this kind of guitar. I might make another one with a different neck attachment arrangement, maybe an attachment via the heel. I like the bolt neck concept.
Here is another clip of the guitar, recorded direct into the computer with no eq, just a bit of reverb and very slight compression.
Mostly hat, few cattle
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Fiddle, tone & playing: rabbit approves!
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Where did you get the control knobs?
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Originally Posted by sgosnell
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Reminds me of Kay indeed, but even better!
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You pretty much built my dream guitar. Looks Great!
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I've seen some of Leeds Radio's knobs, but that particular one. I'll have to look again. I like those.
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Hey PeeBee 'n' Jay,
Excellent work.
Love it.
Now the 'ole Jazzbow brain box is buzzing!
Thanks for sharing
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That's really cool! and what most important (to me at least) - it sounds very very good! Congrats
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I LOVE your guitar! Classic shape and design. Some reason, kinda reminds me of an early-60s Martin F-50 thin-line electric guitar but cleaner looking. You built a sweet guitar for sure.
Last edited by archtopeddy; 11-07-2019 at 12:16 PM.
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That birch one sounds sweet. I'd love to hear that model with a somewhat thinner, lam spruce top. You're on to something here.
MD
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Thread is already a good year old, so I am curisous if this guitar evolved further and if the experiment lead to another improved model?
I love the concept! I don't have the skill to built a body like that, so I had to use a Thinline Telebody for my kind of similar experiment.
I am curious how this guitar would sound with the made in China mahogany bolt on Les Paul neck that I used for my Tele (which turned out to be a very nice neck after some fret leveling and filing off the sharp edges):
22 Frets Mahonie Nek Palissander Fretboard Toets voor Gibson LP Style Gitaar Vervanging - Cheaptech
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Originally Posted by Little Jay
can you point me at the thread
where you described building
your Tele with this neck ?
i might have a go at building one myself
if i find a cheap Tele with
a broken neck or something
thanks man
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Originally Posted by pingu
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