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Originally Posted by Stringswinger
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10-02-2016 07:25 PM
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Congratulations, Joe D., on obtaining your grail. This place is aspirational, and I love it precisely because it's aspirational. Sure, I'd love to obtain some of the iconic guitars floating around this forum, but what I really aspire to is a virtuosity of the instrument like that displayed by Joe.
Thanks for sharing those clips, Joe. Love 'em.Last edited by Dedalus; 10-02-2016 at 07:59 PM.
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Dedalus,
Thanks buddy. I had a blast doing the videos.
And it's been so gratifying to see how this whole story was received by people. I means a lot that it happened but it means more when you share it with your friends who know a lot about this stuff.
I am blessed and thankful to you and everyone else who come on here and express great feelings about this.
Thanks Joe D
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Originally Posted by Stringswinger
and oh, by the way, I found the documentation from Gruhn's that you asked me for. I will get it right out to you.
JD
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Originally Posted by Joe DeNisco
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Originally Posted by Joe DeNisco
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Joe,
OUTSTANDING! That guitar sounds simply great in your hands. We all grew up listening to JS play beautifully. For many of those years, he did so on a guitar exactly like the one you now own.
As a boy my desire for archtop guitars was fueled by Johnny Smith's regular column in Guitar Player Magazine. In the column he held a guitar that looked just like yours.
I truly believe that you have found the guitar that permits you to express yourself completely.
Enjoy, brother.
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Originally Posted by Greentone
The prices that people are asking for L5's are higher now than when I sold my VSB L5 WES which was for around $5400. I Wont pay more than that. It would not be worth it to me.
Thanks again. I found my Unicorn ..
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Oh, my...Patrick. He was a character. He was yanking your chain--big time. That would have driven me nuts, too. Probably, it would have soured me on the experience. My dealings with Patrick were great, I must say. I remember the Wes, well. He offered it to me, but I bought a Super Eagle instead.
Anyway, you have the right guitar for what you are doing. Your playing just sings with the GJS. Your clips are great.
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The GJS is a bigger guitar, an older guitar, and a different guitar made from different billets, compared to the HJS. It would be stunning if the two sounded the same. Since they don't, it's best to have one of each!
I'd love to hear you record something acoustically.
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Originally Posted by Joe DeNisco
That said, I know what it is like to buy the same guitar for the third time. I have done that with two guitars, the ES-175 and the Stratocaster. Probably why today, I have two of each! If I am ever stupid enough to sell one, I will still have one. (We learn from our mistakes)
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Congrats on the Gibson JS
For my L5 gas I just went with an L5CES and an L5WES ... LOL
They are both wonderful and just different enough to make it worth having both
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Originally Posted by Joe DeNisco
Johnny Smith
Made in USA
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.... on the back of the headstock there were no labels inside.
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Just had to dig out this album. The first time I'd ever seen or heard of that guitar !
Been faking ' Spring Can Really Hang You Up the Most ' ever since !
Enjoy yours Joe !!
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Originally Posted by Stringswinger
Originally Posted by Bluedawg
Originally Posted by JazzNote
Originally Posted by Dennis D
Thanks buddy.Last edited by Max405; 10-03-2016 at 09:48 PM.
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Originally Posted by Joe DeNisco
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Oh yeah.
I know I need to branch out a bit and find appreciation in Tal and Wes. They are favorite players for a lot of people for many reasons. I need to learn why.
One other player who I've listened to and am blown away by is Jimmy Raney. Such a gifted player.
I will learn the art of bebop. I hope one day, I can feel it and play it like you guys do.
Joe D.
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Wow, Joe. Great story! Nice to see an extended positive exchange on this forum. Your playing sounds great and makes me want a Jimmy Smith! Speaking from experience, it sure doesn't sound like my L5 Wes or my 175. Guess I have to start shopping, again!
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Originally Posted by Joe DeNisco
There is a little group of us who are using the Jimmy Raney volume of the Aebersold play-a-long set, and learning the solos in there. We just learn 4 measures a week, so it hasn't been burdensome. We just finished our 3rd solo and in a couple weeks will start on another one.
It's a very low-key, low-pressure little group, about 4-5 of us, and you might find that a congenial atmosphere to dabble in the Giant Of Louisville. Just hearing Jimmy Raney's lines coming out of my amp has been a gas!
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Originally Posted by Joe DeNisco
I get the vibe you're a perfectionist in most things, which makes sense if you dig JS and appreciate Raney, they were pretty darn perfect in their playing. but so was Wes, and though not 'perfect' there's a multitude of great players to listen to and learn from, like Tal, Barney, etc....
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Joe, I know you love the Mosaic box set with Johnny Smith's Roost stuff (Who wouldn't?). Check out the Mosaic box set on Tal Farlow (It is his 50's stuff on Verve). Great playing by "The octopus".
https://www.amazon.com/Complete-Verv.../dp/B0002O3894
Mosaic never did a box set on Wes, but there is an amazing box set for him that I strongly suggest you get:
https://www.amazon.com/Complete-Rive.../dp/B000000ZG6
I know you love Joe Pass (Herb Ellis once told me that Joe Pass was the greatest guitarist of all time. Who are we to disagree?). If you do not have the Mosaic box set on Joe, you need to get it. It is still available from Mosaic, but they are running out.
Mosaic Records - The Complete Pacific Jazz Joe Pass Quartet Sessions (#207)
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Originally Posted by Stringswinger
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Originally Posted by Joe DeNisco
and many years before I could afford or play an instrument, Stan Getz
quoted JR as his Bebop mentor.Their stuff was much too difficult for
a beginner . For an accomplished player it is still a challenge the same
applies to Joe Pass' material , Sounds simple but it sure ain't .
You would benefit by following Lawson Stone's advice and acquire the
Aebersold Play along of Jimmy Raney's Standard /Bop tunes.
Knowing your.dedication and persistence you will soon get in that groove
I've had that book for years , but still find it difficult to play , sigh.
Alan
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Originally Posted by JazzNote
They were regular people too I guess.
Thanks JazzNote
Originally Posted by Stringswinger
Originally Posted by wintermoon
Now that I got the setup dialed in on my dream-baby-guitar, wait till you hear Minor Detail. Oh what a guitar..
Originally Posted by lawson-stone
Way to go Lawson.
Originally Posted by yebdox
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Also don't forget Grant Green's Blue Note recordings. 1960-1964. Swinging stuff. Jimmy Raney and Tal's styles were very similar with Tal being faster and Jimmy cleaner. Serious chops.
One head, two cabs.
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