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  1. #51

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    Quote Originally Posted by valriver40
    i play a epiphone joe pass sunburst. as the fret brd. is a shorter scale, it is easer to play for me, due to an accident to my pointer finger.
    I too have one of these except that I've had Gibson pickups installed - a friend was upgrading his Les Paul Studio with new Screaming Death Metal Crazyhead pickups - or somesuch - so I took the old ones off him for a sensible price, and they give the Epi a much fuller, warmer sound. Only problem is that with short, fat fingers, I find some chords a bit of a struggle on that fingerboard. More work needed I'm afraid (on me, not the guitar!)

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  3. #52

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    I also play a Joe Pass with GIbson pick ups. Isn't the fretboard the same as any Gibson/Epiphone. I haven't noticed a difference.

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    the epiphone specs list the broadway, all their acoustics as 25.50 scale and the joe pass as 24.75 scale which includes the les pauls ect. i do have a broadway and with only 3 fingers the joe pass is easyer to play.

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    I play mostly Fender Stratocasters, Mustangs, Jaguars, and Telecasters. I find these guitars to be my favorite. I also have played several guitars like an Ibanez designed in the style of a Gibson 335. I seem to always return to the Fenders.


    Unlike most jazz players or jazz influenced players, I use the bridge position to get a jazz tone, but adjust my amplifier to make the tone warmer.


    Terje Rypdal
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    Let me say that I can get just as good of a tone, if not better, with a Fender Stratocaster. In fact, what puzzles people is the fact that I play in the bridge pickup position instead of the neck pickup position. I also have both tone knobs all the way up. I just adjust my amplifier accordingly and I have all the warmth of a Telecaster in the bridge position. I have found my tone and I can't do this with any other guitar for some reason.

    Archtops are always going to sound good, but most of them, for me, lack the kind of playing a solidbody guitar has. If I play an archtop it's just for single-note lines, because chord voicings are hard to grab on them. That's why I like the Stratocaster for it's playability, tone, and versatility.

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    Thanks to this thread I bought a Telecaster and love it. I'm also thinking of getting a semi hollow guitar to round out my collection. The 335 is too big. The ES 339 and the CS 336 are smaller semi guitars that I'm considering.

    Does anyone have experience with these guitars for jazz, or can you lead me to pro's that use these guitars?

  8. #57

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    Quote Originally Posted by nic
    Thanks to this thread I bought a Telecaster and love it. I'm also thinking of getting a semi hollow guitar to round out my collection. The 335 is too big. The ES 339 and the CS 336 are smaller semi guitars that I'm considering.

    Does anyone have experience with these guitars for jazz, or can you lead me to pro's that use these guitars?
    Nic, I have a CS 356. It's basically the same guitar as the CS 336, but with a little more eye candy (i.e. gold HW, flame maple top etc), think of what the ES 355 was to the ES 335.

    I absolutly LOVE this guitar. I traded a ES 355 for this. I didn't use the 355 much. The CS is very comfortable to play & sounds fantastic with the solid routed mahogany body. You can get a great jazz sound, but also don't need to worry about cranking it up and getting feedback. Very versatile, I highly recommend it.


    Ron

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    I use a Tele ,HW1 body ,Baja neck,with a Seymour Duncan Alnico II neck pickup .Sweet and warm but clear but will go very soft and vintage jazzy if required .I have a Tonerider hotter bridge pickup and it s great for blues .I also have it wired up with a four way switch and its a very versatile instrument indeed .I mainly play Ed Bickert type chordy finger style for Jazz .i keep meaning to fit a rosewood neck but never get round to it .The maple neck is OK but a bit ringy .I also Have an Epiphone Dot SE with hardware upgrades and Tonerider Rocksongs .These also will give a good jazz tone through a valve amp .Of course it is great for overdrive and rock but will give good tones clean as well .Not sure which I would grab in a fire .The Tele probably though more work has gone into the Dot .

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    The perfect jazz guitar is a Gibson L5.

    Unfortunately it requires the perfect amp in the perfect room at the perfect volume with the perfect phrasing from the perfect player, or there's going to be trouble!

    For the rest of us mere mortals who must somehow get heard over the imperfect drummer in an imperfect room playing imperfectly on tunes that nobody wants to hear (between announcements about whoever left their headlights on in the parking lot), while avoiding the drunk chick -who wants to sing along's- BIG and drunk husband...

    ...a Tele is the weapon of choice (and I do mean weapon).

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    Nothing sounds like a hollowbody...nothing. Even 335 style axes, while workable and close, cannot get what you get from a 175, L5, Super 400 and the like. Strats, Teles, LPs etc. can sound great but they can never approach what you get from a big hollow body in my opinion.

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    I own a George Golla model guitar made by MATON here in Australia. One of the best guitars I ever played with and thats what George golla says always. By aussie made not one of these cheap asian made imports.

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    If you want to imitate a traditional jazz sound then you probably need a good archtop hollow body. But to me JAZZ means a progressive style of music open to experimentation and new ideas and whatever guitar suits your style and sensibility would be acceptable.

    I mentioned earlier in this thread that I bought a Tele. About a month ago I bought a Gibson Johnny A. These two guitars cover it all for me.

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    I bought an unexpensive acoustic Ibanez (150 Euros) a Seymour Duncan Seth Lover Neck Pickup, build a pickguard and a set of flatwounds and: voila!. the combo is also made by myself, bought an Celestion Greenback speaker, build the box and put in an inexpensive Yamaha MS-202 monitor amp (after I removed the original speakers and half of the outer box). Sounds great, Roland Jazz chorus type. I use a MXR Phaser. I think you can't talk about the perfect jazz guitar without mentioning the amp you use.(except the case when the guitar is completely acoustic, unplugged)

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    I play on a msc650 from ibanez. mostly it's sold as a western guitar, but in fact it is not. It's a hybrid guitar, which means it is neither an accustic nor an electric guitar, but something in between.
    The pros are, that it provides a rich spectrum of different sounds, with and without effects, with and without distortion out of the box.
    It is propable not comparable to a high-end archtop. But you can configure a nice warm sound and can play it without amp, too. I do not play over an amp any more, but use the xvamp of behringer and from their into my powermixer. My old Marshal is standing in the edge and remembers me of my youth. That way I can use almost infinite different sound-setups, that obviously also match for Jazz.
    The guitar was not too expensive - it costed about 450 to 500 $ (550€), comes with a guitar-case and looks quite nice. I think it is absolutely useful for any gig, though I did not try it on one yet (I just have it for a month now).

    At least it is a very good setup for beginners on the jazz area, because it enables you to play almost every sound, you like.

    And if I have got enough motivation to practice for the next years and get famous one day, I still can buy a really excellent archtop

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    May I respectfully add a little curved ball to your recommendations on Jazz guitars? I would like to offer up my own little beast for nomination. It's loaded with new york mini-humbuckers which someone mentioned they were looking for in a guitar, further more it comes out of a very reputable stable even today, it's very high on looks (you can put away the funny beret and beard to turn a girl's head), it was produced in a limited edition and is no longer produced now so you're not going clash with anyone at the battle of the bands and finally it was designed rather than cloned. Ladies and Gentlemen, charge your glasses and stand for the toast. I give you the Ephiphone FlameKat Limited ! A beast in its own right and of course an archtop with the advantages of being a thinline! Check it out if you can.
    Cheers

    Fast Eddy

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    I bought a gen-yooo-wine Gibson ES-335 for jazz. Perfect guitar for jazz, right? Well, it's certainly been used alot for jazz, and it also plays rock, blues. Perfect. I was in heaven. I had MY guitar.

    Trouble is, I've had it 8 months, and I don't like it. Sounds great. Neck plays very well. Pickups sound great.

    But it's uncomfortable to play...ergonomically (I play seated). No matter how I sit with it, whether resting it on one or the other thigh, or strapping it on with a strap, with foot propped or not, with the guitar at various angles, it just doesn't feel right. I'm either hunching or twisting somehow, or one or the other arms is in an uncomfortable spot, or the guitar is unbalanced and I'm holding it up with one or the other arms.

    My wife bought me a $350 MIM Strat for Christmas. I love it. Not quite as warm or airy as th 335, although, as someone said, you can get there pretty nicely with amp eq'ing. But it sounds fantastic. I use the neck or the neck/middle position, and it's comfy, light, it's perfect.

    The 335 is up for sale and I'm replacing it with a synth guitar.

    I think you can play jazz on any guitar. The only thing I really, really believe is that guys who are playing jazz archtops, or ES-175s, or similar guitars, look more like traditional jazz players. But the sound is whatever you make. Every guitar poses different challenges in technique, but I really believe you get the tone from your left and right hands. A good amp helps, of course, but there is a way to make jazz on any guitar.

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    I've got a D'Aquisto Centura in the rare violin-burst finish (see my avatar pic paid 2K for her...) ready for an even trade if you're interested. It's never been out of my home studio and is just as special as the other Centura I have. Every note is just as loud as the next on this acoustic and it's perfect for adding a floating pup to, which was my original intention when I bought it, just never got around to it. Or, we can exchange and try them if we pay our own shipping. I know I'm a newbie here, but we can do it through PayPal if you like. I've got 100% favorable on eBay if that helps...

    Got a pic of your 335?

    I've got plenty more of the Centura if you're at all interested just let me know!
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    It's the one on the right...


    Last edited by Squint; 02-19-2009 at 06:58 PM.

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    Great! Best thing about the Centura is that the luthiers at Aria's custom shop in Japan made her with the sonic forethought of adding a floating pup later. At least this way, YOU get to pick and choose exactly what you like that sounds best. Chances are, though, you might be so impressed with the sound while miked, you might just want to keep it acoustic. I was personally going to make another ebony fingerrest to be able to switch out from floater to full acoustic, but as I said... too many guitars, too little time.

    Of course, we could always agree to return the other guitar if EITHER of us changes our minds over a week or two...

    Look at me.. I don't even KNOW you guys and I'm already bartering my CHILDREN with you! LOL!!

    What the hey... it's worth a try.

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    I also did the custom pickguard/fingerrests on the J9's in the center... It's very easy to take a Benedetto rest and shape it just like the original D'Aquisto as I did for a pal's Hofner Verithin...







    Last edited by Squint; 02-19-2009 at 07:35 PM.

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    And after all my crowing about the Centura, I think I am going to look for an ES-345 instead. I know they're out there. That's a beautiful 335, JP and worth every penny you're asking for it. It won't be around for long, that's for sure.

    And as for the 335 in a sitting position... next time you get a chance to watch a rerun of Hee Haw on Direct TV, or even the Porter Wagoner show.... do it! You get a lot of info watching those old Nashville pros at work. I noticed, stopped and rewound, a guy with an ES 335 sitting with it positioned with the lower bout between his knees, not on them, and the neck up at about a 45 degree angle, like a classical player. He kept the neck up with a shoulder strap and seemed to be quite comfy. I tried this position today at Guitar Center comparing the new 335's and a few Gretsches and even a Martin CM1 with my Electra X410 and they didn't come close. The chinese Gretsches were especially disappointing. And the Electra was made in 1977, so it does have it's advantages. But the 32 yr/old pups were still hot and I think I now have a case of AMP GAS! Playing through headphones is now dull after trying so many amps today. CRAP! I'm going to go play and crank my little VOX AC30 headphone thingy up to eleven!
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    Try a Stromberg.They ask all sorts of questions about the amp you use,action you need,and will send the guitar to you fully set up with the strings of your choice,too.No trips and $$ to your local tech.It arrives readyto play.
    gtr_5155

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    Good morning. I have just joined this site and find the content extremely interesting. I have recently played several Eastman Jazz boxes and each one sounded better than anything I have played. This guitar is probably one of the best buys available today. The 803CE is my favorite.

    With regards to an inexpensive jazz box, several years ago I purchased a Washburn Wes Montgomery J6. I paid about $600 for it and am pleased with the tone and overall playability. Last month I swapped out the neck pick-up for a Gibson '57 Classic Humbucker. The improvement in tone was substantial. The J6 is no longer being produced, however, I would suggest checking the used market to see if you can get your hands on one.

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    A really good option would be Epiphones Joe Pass. Generally they are very well built and can be bought used for about $450 with hsc. Later you could upgrade the pick ups. I put in GIbson 57' classics and the improvement was substantial.

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    There's something about Gibson pickups. I played many Eastmans, and loved the workmanship, action, etc. However, their pickups just don't (to my ears) have that sweet rich sound you get from a Gibson.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rodan
    Hi there, I've gone through most of this thread but haven't seen anyone mention any jazz guitars for those on a tight budget.Is it possible to buy a hollow body for the price of a Squier solid body?I would love to be able to trade my Squier Stagemaster for a nice archtop.

    Rodan
    There's a very well kept and sweet sounding 1988 Washburn J6 on eBay right now. It is laminated maple so that it does not feed back as easily as a solid top. And if you put a Gibson HB in the neck, you would not be able to tell the difference against one that cost thousand$ more. I can barely tell with the original Washburn HB's now.

    But if all else fails, try an Oscar Schmidt, have it set up properly and get new pups. Just about anything from Washburn is a good value.

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    I used to have a 335 (60s) that was wonderful. Now I have one custom Strat that real kicks--I use it in my band and to record. But I am not totally thrilled with it for jazz from a couple of perspectives. When I was living in Venezuela I bought a Legend, which is a strat clone and it plays lovely. So when I got my new strat, I yanked the neck off the Legend and a friend is putting two P-90s in it with a modified (Les Paul style) tone control. Should be sweet.

    By the way, just to note changing times, a bit from Winkepdia on the ES-175 (a wonderful guitar!)
    "The denomination 175 came from the original price tag of the first ES, which was $175.00."

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    By the way, just to note changing times, a bit from Winkepdia on the ES-175 (a wonderful guitar!)
    "The denomination 175 came from the original price tag of the first ES, which was $175.00."[/quote]


    Same with the goldtop version that had a bigsby, the ES-295.

    I remember back in the early '70s, seeing a Howard Roberts Custom in sunburst at a place in NJ called Muscaras Music. It was selling for about $800 with case. Brand new. These days that same guitar on the vintage market is fetching $2500 to $3500, used.

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    No guitar is perfect, but I have just been introduced to the Peerless line and every single one of them are potentially "perfect for right now".

    And Doc Dosco is a righteous dude, so give them a try. There are few better values out there at any price or for any level of experience.

    I am impressed.

    www.docdosco.com

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    Amen on the tele-portation for jazz. I used an American tele ( delta system wiring ) with stock P/U's rolling off the high end of the neck P/U about 1/4 turn playing fingerstyle chord melody with a combo that included horns and it was a HIT ! Amazingly, I would not have expected it to produce, but it was the ONLY axe I had at the time....Wah La ! Some of the listeners were equally amazed during our travels and gigs......I always knew and respected Leo for the TWANG monsters, but LAYED BACK !!??!!....Who knew?

  32. #81

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    Quote Originally Posted by 86general
    I bought a gen-yooo-wine Gibson ES-335 for jazz. Perfect guitar for jazz, right? Well, it's certainly been used alot for jazz, and it also plays rock, blues. Perfect. I was in heaven. I had MY guitar.

    Trouble is, I've had it 8 months, and I don't like it. Sounds great. Neck plays very well. Pickups sound great.

    But it's uncomfortable to play...ergonomically (I play seated). No matter how I sit with it, whether resting it on one or the other thigh, or strapping it on with a strap, with foot propped or not, with the guitar at various angles, it just doesn't feel right. I'm either hunching or twisting somehow, or one or the other arms is in an uncomfortable spot, or the guitar is unbalanced and I'm holding it up with one or the other arms.
    Oh boy, can I relate to this! I've got a Godin LGX-SA that I have played exclusively for the last ten years (almost). High quality, versatile guitar, SD Jazz Neck, SD Custom Custom bridge, sounds great, etc. I have the same problem though, I've never found my comfort zone with it. I can only get it sitting with it propped like a classical guitar. I can't sit like that playing with the band. I can't find my comfort zone standing with a strap!

    I'm VERY intrigued by the number of positive comments on the Telecaster. Perhaps the Tele would be a better fit for me? I never considered them before because they don't portray the image I've imagined for myself. I confess to seeing them as strictly country complete with cowboy hats and sequin outfits. I think I need to reconsider my bias. The idea of a working man's guitar that does the job appeals to me more than owning a finniky little beauty that requires more maintenance than its worth.
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    You can change instrument. I suggest diatonic harmonica (chromatic is too heavy) , or the kozoo, or the piano (be seated when play it). And pay attention to avoid acoustic bass or the didjeridoo...

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    I have had a few great guitars over the years and I still have a McKerrihan 16", a 60's Guild X175, an early 50's ES350, a long scale 350T, and a 335. Lately I've been playing a '56 RI goldtop LP with original 50's pickups and harness; very sweet, better than what I expected from a LP. The old 350 is semi-retired, the 335 is very nice too, but it doesn't seem to have the warmth.
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    Have a few guitars. An Eastman Thinline T185MX. Very nice. Jazz or blues. A
    Guild Blues Bird. Similar to the LP. Sweet through tube amps. But my favorite is my G&L ASAT Classic Blues Boy Semi Hollow. Its a G&L Tele thinline. Love it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sno_pack
    Have a few guitars. An Eastman Thinline T185MX. Very nice. Jazz or blues. A
    Guild Blues Bird. Similar to the LP. Sweet through tube amps. But my favorite is my G&L ASAT Classic Blues Boy Semi Hollow. Its a G&L Tele thinline. Love it.
    Is your blues boy chambered or with f holes ? how is it with feedback I hear that tha Seymour Duncan Seth lover pickup squeals if your to close to your amp and playing loud...Is it balance when you play standing or neck heavy?Hows the neck chunky or thin? sorry for all the question I have been considering one...Thanks

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    Blues Boy has an f hole. Chunky gun-oiled neck with ebony fretboard. I have never had problems with pickup squeals, but generally don't play loud. I do play close to the amp frequently though.

    Play through a Victoria 512, Rivera Clubster 45, or Fender Bassman. Use a Holy Grail for reverb on all. Keep the Clubster on the clean channel. The guitar is balanced, but can get heavy after a while.

    Usually set pickup switch to middle position and notes sound clear and warm with an initial pop. Notes in the lower register have more clarity than my other guitars.

    Build quality excellent. Solid. Great sustain. For me a little pricey...2500 or + depending on options.

  38. #87

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    Checkout any of the PEERLESS jazz guitars...The higher end Cremona is great...The others are very , very nice too...Not that expensive....$2000. or so.They are almost as nice as a Benedetto and certainly as nice as Eastman.
    To me , Benedetto is the nicest i've ever seen or heard but i'm a Newbie.
    There is a dealer in New Jersey named Lou. Look up Peerless online and it will take you to him.

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    I got a Gibson ES-135 Limited Edition a couple of months ago. Everyday I like it more and more. It gets incredible not-jazz tones (rock, blues, blah, blah,) and actually does jazz about 96% as well as my full hollow with flatwound strings. (I think the absence of flats on this gtr. is the missing 4%).

    I'm not sure how that is, but what I've convinced my self is that using balsa wood for the center block doesn't add as much oomph as the maple found in 335's or mahogany in the 137's, but still eliminates feedback. That combined with the slightly deeper body (than 335's) and Gibson's '57 Classic humbuckers give it a great jazz tone.

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    I don't know if it is "the perfect jazz guitar". I don't think such a beast exists. Different tools for different jobs. I can get some great voicings but the trade off is I can't roll my thumb on to the E string, for example. it all depends on what you are going for. I play chord melody or at least try to, its great for that. And when I get together with a couple of my friends to jam without a bassist they are amazed at the full sound I get. So for me its as perfect as I can get. Saying that I wouldn't pass up an L-5 if I had one given to me LOL
    Thanks for the compliment on my guitar Peter.

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    I'm a full time Tele player but this is probably as good a time
    as any to confess.......I also collect Harmonys. These two
    are old, mojo filled, sweet sounding work horses and very
    inexpensive. Good old fashioned American made instruments
    now living a second life as the vintage world's best kept
    secret. Those pickups.....Gibson P13's, the predessor to the
    P90's.

    Late 50's Harmony H65



    Early 50's harmony H50


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    wel,i have to tell it!I bough me an aria herb ellis en she sounds sweet!I guess my other guitars wil have to leave the playroom..

  43. #92

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    The Aria Herb Ellis model is a pretty good guitar, I don't think you have to break the bank to get a good guitar.

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    I bought a Hagstrom Super Swede Vintage Series a couple months ago, and the jazz tone settings I'm using really appeal to me. The sustain is incredible, it'll go on forever. The body is solid mahogany maple bookmatched top. The electronics are supposed to be the same as the 70's Swedish made models. These guitars have a tough, polyester finish that doesn't scratch near as easily as traditional finishes, and the necks on all Hagstroms are the selling feature. I'll vouch for mine, the best I've used.

    I would suggest to anyone looking at the Gibson 335 or Epi copy to have a good look at the Hagstrom Viking series.

    I read 2 magazine reviews on Hagstroms that said they are finished at least as well as 2000 dollar and up American made guitars.

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    Excerpt :

    Quote Originally Posted by ggman
    Oh boy, can I relate to this! I've got a Godin LGX-SA that I have played exclusively for the last ten years (almost). High quality, versatile guitar, SD Jazz Neck, SD Custom Custom bridge, sounds great, etc. I have the same problem though, I've never found my comfort zone with it. I can only get it sitting with it propped like a classical guitar. I can't sit like that playing with the band. I can't find my comfort zone standing with a strap!
    ================================================== =======

    I love my LGXSA I sit , have to now after one car accident to many . It's a bit of a monster ( so is a Les Paul ) to be sure but what a tone giant . Straight into a little Gibson Skylark 15watt tube and wow it's unreal for the 50's sound and plugged into my old Gretsch class A tube and it's a time machine to Charlie Christian's era's sound .

    I have a Carvin X60 tube hybrid 60 watt and it sounds really great there to for Jazz , Blues and Rock and it's many permutations .

    When I use a multiple voiced sound like adding a electric piano to a jazz guitar or rock guitar's sound it's really astural at times really When I realized I had sounds the likes of Pat Matheny when I did this I said :

    OH WOW thats how he got that !

    Yeah synthesizer sounds meshed and blended with traditional jazz / blues / and or rock is where it's at for me . My LGXSA do deliva when hooked to my Roland GR33 guitar synthesizer and Digitech GNX4 .

    I use :

    Peavy single folded horns ( X2 ) with Black Widow 15" full range woofers and Altec big ass state of the art horns ( X2 ) these suckers are huge , the driver elements on it to replace cost me over $100.00 each and that was 13 years ago !

    Pump them up with a generic 500 watt solid state stereo amp and it can handle a really big room no problem . I have a 8" JBL system for small venues .

    Also I use a Yamaha 50 watt solid state guitar amp in stereo with my Carvin X60 tube amp ,the stereo FX I get when I use my Digitech GNX4 on this set up is fantastic . I can also go directly to both guitar amps and the 500 watt amp all from my GNX4 including ( with full FX and RVB ) my vocal XLR mic .

    Life is good

    Sincerely :

    Hurricane Ramon

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    hi,

    what about not harming Django to play even on a broken guitar?
    I read this somewhere.
    Made me a lot of thinking, why and what and certainly because.
    A friend of mine makes every guitar "sound", and he doesn't mind, seems
    as he's got the sound from his "ears". Amazing and frustrating.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lester
    "Use the Warp knob to Morph amp and cabinet models together to create your own Hypermodels."

    Man that is one serious rig! I'm too old for that sh$t. I'm still trying to figure out what the middle switch position on my Tele does.
    Hey Lester whats shakin man :

    I bet I'm older than you heh heh ( 58 ) and yeah this unit ( GNX4 ) is not for the faint of heart . The fact of the matter for me in this case as a guitarist is I began only 10 years ago after being a performing pro since 1977 as a Blues Harp Blowing maniac with chops that rivaled many a piano - keyboard / guitar player no BS .

    So here comes a miracle a real one and I'm making up for lost time . My first 6 years at it was set at 6 to 7 days a week if I could do it , 4 to 6 minimal hours and all day when I could manage it .

    I had begun learning keyboard in 93 and knew how to read notation since I was a trumpet player in elementary school in 58 . I started harps ( diatonic harmonicas ) in 54 at 4 yrs of age .

    My majority time practicing was with the physical aspect of developing my left forearm and hand's strength and coordination since at 48 your going backwards in the case of muscle development

    But I digress ...

    My take on what I wanted in an electric guitar and then the peripherals that are available for one to " enhance the guitar's sounds and textures of :

    Yesterday - Now - N - Tomorrow .......

    My eyes saw my future guitar ( electric after I made a Washburn D46SCE acoustic electric sound real purdee) to be one that was the :

    " state of the art electric guitar "

    I did not let tradition get in the way .

    I did look at every guitar player and rig I liked .

    I did not limit the guitar to any one genre .

    I did consider what Andres Segovia said :

    " The guitar is like an orchestra each sting being a separate and distinct voice "

    After all was thought out for over a period of 4 years of researching everything from guitar players I know in the business and the internet's powerful reach of information I settled for the Godin LGXSA with a Roland GR33 guitar synthesizer and then my last piece to complete my dream set up I got the Digitech GNX4 because nothing came close for the $'s with as much bang fo dee buck .

    I have to write that the GNX4 really messed up my mind for quite some time as did the Roland GR33 . These units take some studying aside from the actual use !

    But - - -

    Did not learning to play guitar also mess up your mind for a while ? Was learning how a chord is constructed take only a hour to learn ? What about arm , hand and the coordination trip ?

    What takes time to learn is not easily forgotten , worth while projects take their time .

    Easy Come Easy Go - -

    1st song I tackled on guitar was { Some Where Over The Rainbow } . It kicked my ass ! 4 years !

    But

    Seems nothing is too difficult now heh heh .

    I'm nobody at 10 years at it but , I am light years ahead of many others with more than 10 years at it save some younger guys who are so good I want to shoot them heh heh .

    So that's what makes me tick .

    Teles I love . The LGXSA can make a really cool Tele like sound too , it was one of the reasons I got it . The Fender Roland ready did not have as much flexibility even though well made and cheaper . The PRS were way out of my price league as was the Parker Fly synth guitar . My expense for the above rig I posted was :

    $1700.00 for the LGXSA w/hardshell case and Roland GR33
    $500.00 GNX4 no tax or shipping charges .
    100.00 empty single folded Peavy horn cabs X2
    $200.00 15" Peavy Blackwidows X2
    $300.00 Altec horns ( one with a blown element ) X2
    $120.00 Horn element
    $250.00 New off an internet music store GEM 500 Watt Stereo Power amp
    $3170.00 Total .

    Now I could have spent the $s on just one Gibson ..............or a Parker Fly

    NOT ! ! !


    Sincerely :

    HR

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    Hurricane
    The best Jazz guitar is the one that fit's your needs and speaks to you.
    I play acoustic, I have amps but seldom use them as I never play outside the house.
    In fact the last time I played with anyone pluged into a amp was in your front room!!!!!
    Love Ya Bro

  49. #98

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    Quote Originally Posted by jaxson50
    Hurricane
    The best Jazz guitar is the one that fit's your needs and speaks to you.
    I play acoustic, I have amps but seldom use them as I never play outside the house.
    In fact the last time I played with anyone pluged into a amp was in your front room!!!!!
    Love Ya Bro
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    Hey Blood Brother !

    Yes that was really fun only nearly not enough time ! The best moments in music are sometimes the impromptu times in a living room with a good friend .

    Yesterday with my neighbor and an other two friends the acoustic steel strings were humming to the sounds if Latin America , Tangos , Cumbias , Latin 60's pop/rock .

    After a few hours I was asked to play some Jazz and really helped some seasoned guitar players sit up and take notice of something quite new and different to them , the best of these two guitarists asked after wards if I would show him " Satin Doll " cool huh !

    That guitarist who learned Satin Doll was stoked on learning something Jazz for the first time , he thought it would be impossible heh heh .

    Easy man

    Hurricane Ramon

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    I can tell you what NOT to buy...Canvas CFC 70. Sounded very tinny unplugged (it's a full hollow), pup's were weak and without any depth, the neck had a wave in it. Maybe I expected too much for a cheap jazz box. At least the seller promised to refund my money.

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    There are many South Korean guitar makers, Samick being the largest, (maybe the largest in the world in volume). The companies will build to spec. and differ the design and details to the buyers request.
    Some of the guitars are pretty good some,, not so much. It all comes down to what the customer is willing to spend per unit.