View Poll Results: Do signature models influence you to buy?
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Yes, I like the player
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No way I'll pay for the name + a logo tax
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Yes, If the price were equal to the standard and appointments were nicer
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I buy what I like and don't care if there's a name on the head
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I'm probably better than that clown, I'd be embarrassed to play one
6 3.70%
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after you play for awhile..twenty years or so..you refine your wants and needs in a guitar..at least I do..I cant just play any guitar and feel at my best with it..I have had many over the years..and with each one I have modified it in one way or another..mostly the neck and action and pickups/tone...
so at present my les paul classic antique in wine red is my only love..from all clean to very dirty depending on the amp and effects I get the sounds I want from it .. very low action/neck and nut adjusted/light gauge strings ..
I have played several "sig" models..recently a jeff beck strat..now Im not sure if Jeff was involved with the design/specs..and he could say..."yep this is exactly how I like em.." or if fender just made a deal for his name and did a "close enough for rock n roll" model..I would have had to make some adjustments to the strat for my personal likings..
I played a fender "custom shop" strat -no name- that I could have lived with and not changed a thing of course it was 4K+ a bit more than I can justify for any guitar..my next will be the Tele American Delux..out of the box it feels/sounds very nice..only change will be the string gauge..
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01-16-2016 01:41 AM
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Originally Posted by bananafist
Resonant Chamber with tremolo springs attached...H-S-H with mini toggles to coil cut the Humbuckers which have rod magnets on one coil.
What are the chances of this? ...lol.
Even John Suhr hasn't gone here yet.
I wonder why there are so few 25.5" Scale Set Necks ?
I bet the Alvin Lee Signature 335( yes really) with which is Gibson's only H-S-H Guitar has some great possibilities( with Toggles added) but they probably only made 8 of them or they are same price as a Honda...like to try one though...Last edited by Robertkoa; 01-17-2016 at 02:43 AM.
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The only sig guitar I've ever owned was a Les Paul. I'm not agains them in principle, but I am a cheapskate, and too often signature guitars are significantly more expensive.
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Originally Posted by morroben
I was asking Carvin about a neck through 25.5" scale Guitar they ( finally ) make again
but unfortunately it has a 24 fret Fingerboard so loss of warmth from neck Pickup which has always been my main PU on every Guitar ..
- It is a Lee McKinney Signature- whom I definitely never heard of ...lol.
And Dave Grohl was another one I never heard of although I had heard of the Guitar before.
One I would like to try is an Alvin Lee Sig 335 - because it is an H-S-H 335- that would be interesting.
You would think some Studio Guy would have an H-S-H 335 ( Ritenour etc) but Alvin Lee ...I don't imagine Gibson has sold many but I imagine some cool Tones.
Another Carvin which I want to try is the Holdsworth due to the Semi Hollow or Hollow Fatboy and the warm fat tones and resonance...again 24 frets a bit less warmth from neck PU ...
Also agree that I don't want to pay for someone's name but for features and Tone I will .
Maybe a Justin Bieber Set Neck Mahogany 2 " Thick Body Stratocaster ? Lol.
I don't care who's name is on it if it has unique features/ Tones that I like/ need.
After about 319 more nearly identical Strats .with different Model Names..maybe Fender will release a Set Neck Strat Model by 2026.
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Originally Posted by Robertkoa
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Originally Posted by Hammertone
Those were a special type of super strong glue joint they came up with I read...obviously I care more about fatness/ warmth...but yes..a Production Run of those would be cool especially Mahogany.
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I have an Ibanez JSM-10 (the Scofield signature model) and an Epi Joe Pass. I bought the Joe Pass because I tried it out and liked it, and the price was right. The Scofield I bought because I figured it would come reasonably close to the early 80s Ibbies that he plays. I had not tried one before I bought it, but I was not disappointed in the least. It's an amazing guitar.
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Originally Posted by eddy b.
Last edited by Boston Joe; 07-31-2016 at 11:27 AM.
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I liked the look of the Gibson Johnny A since I first saw it advertised but never had the chance to play one. This past January, Johnny A played on a blues cruise we went on and all I can say is that he was one of the few guitarists to send shivers down my back with a black one with Bigsby. I'd do one of those. And a Gibson Pat Martino too. Unique designs. And, until fairly recently, sort of affordable on the used market.
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Originally Posted by GNAPPI
I noticed the Jeff Beck Signature of a Signature...but of course if it sounds as good as it looks....
I was just remembering how great JB was in the Yardbirds in what ...1964 ?
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Originally Posted by Robertkoa
If you've got comparative tracks you can point me to where I can hear the glue, I'm all ears. Until then, please forgive my skepticism. Once the rhythm section kicks in, this sort of detail -- if audible at all -- is lost.
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Originally Posted by Thumpalumpacus
So that made me think of more tone transfer ...( I am not a Luthier but many feel that some joints can involve the Body more for deeper Tones ).
I suspect there are better Glues for setting the necks ...but that was not my point.
Also for the type of Tones - I am talking about...not sure a lightweight Body in Ash or Alder will even work.
I have a Carvin Strat type which is very heavy which after Blocking the Trem has a lot of bottom end...and it is very loud and full unplugged...probably louder than most ES 335's.
Not sure if it's the Koa...the weight( over 10 pounds)...the Trem as resonant Cavity etc. and more bottom end is noticed as soon as Trem is blocked- these are sounds your Grandmother would notice- not some subtle barely audible thing.
Once more Buyers get out of the" 50's 60's - is- the-Golden- Age- for - Solidbody-Electric- Guitars" Fantasy...we can start moving ahead with R&D.
But I suspect slightly angled headstocks,
Set necks....heavier Mahogany Bodies..
and fixed bridges( bolted to the Top of the Guitar) with a non moving trem block and springs - will produce a Strat Type Tonality with much more acoustic fullness ..so you get much more from it when you plug in.
Most people don't care about a Morph between a Strat and an Archtop or great Semi Hollow...and if they make some cool Semi Hollow 25.5" scale Instruments...I can maybe just go there.
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Is that a Robben Ford or an Esprit?
Last edited by MaxTwang; 08-07-2016 at 02:33 AM.
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Looks like a Strat mated with an ES 347 and this is the Offspring...
Looks nice though - bet it's sweet through that Champ...
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Originally Posted by MaxTwang
Which is still hard to see because of my lazy re string.
I can pick up sky sports if I stand close to my tv though
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Originally Posted by Robertkoa
Originally Posted by Robertkoa
Originally Posted by Robertkoa
And once I plugged in, the gain-staging of the amp has so much to say tonally.
Originally Posted by Robertkoa
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Originally Posted by eddy b.
It comes out of the Mexican factory.
He's all angular indie Britpop wahh twangg Grrruuunnng. Not quite my liking. Some Blur songs are okay, a bit self aware and jocular. The Gorillaz are a better music project
It's a shame that Fender choose someone 'pop' over the more cultured 'Jazz' styles.
You got to give it to Gibson for their Artist signature series for Jazz musicians!
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Originally Posted by jazzbow
Gibson has a long history of catering to the jazz market, so it's not surprising that they go for some jazz artists.
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Originally Posted by Thumpalumpacus
When someone across the room plays a minor 11 th Chord unplugged even in a quiet room ...it goes plink plink plink you can't tell what the chord is ..on a 175 or
most 335's or my Guitar you hear the Chord ...it is quite full and no Strat will do this...
And you are correct about the narrow window pickups on the 25.5" Scale producing those Tones.
IF you put Strat Pickups on a 25.5" scale semi hollow it would sound similar BUT fuller...less volume dependent...less dependent on the Amp.
IF the Tone and deep resonance is already there in the Body Unplugged ( differences your Grandmother can hear MUCH more E A and D string unplugged
( no Fender Strats I have heard do this )
then you do not need a 4-12 Cabinet and perfect Amp etc. to sound like _____.
And there is more sustain...I wish they made more 25.5" Scale Semi Hollows and Set Necks.
You can go and play 146 Fender Strats with light bodies...huge gaps in the neck pocket...not enough down pressure at the nut..( saves wood on neck blanks)
and they won't have this quality and you have to deck and block the Trem to get the deeper resonance too.
Block and deck your Trem even on a Strat...you will hear more bottom end usually..and even if you don't tell your Amp or Rig it will come through...lol.
But not to the same degree as a better made instrument..and with distortion you hear it less anyway it's on clean Tones..
I like some thinner Tones...but like to thin out a fatter Guitar rather than be trapped in Banjo type Tones..
A 175 with a Stoptail and H -S-H might be really cool for what I do ...
I have woodshedded long enough to deserve it...lol.
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Oh, I'm not saying construction doesn't matter -- it does.
I'm saying that my job, as a guitarist, is to fish the right tone out of the instrument, having taken inherent tones into account.
As for thinning out a fat guitar, sure, it can be done. It doesn't mean that a 400-lb guy can ride the unicycle. There's a delicacy in Fender tones (due to scale length, pickup positioning, and wiring) that are difficult to achieve on other guitars. Banjo-esque? In the hands of one who hasn't spent time on the instrument, sure. But get the intro to "Little Wing" sounding right on a Gibby-scale instrument. Good gig if you can land it!
There's a usable tone in any instrument you pick up. The song will tell you what it needs. Our job, as musicians, is to deliver that.
Oddly enough for a rocker like m'self,a P-90 ES-175 is my Holy Grail axe. Beautiful combination of girth and cluck. If your mileage varies, it's all good. We each hear our own thing.Last edited by Thumpalumpacus; 08-13-2016 at 05:48 AM.
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Seeing as I haven't listened to Scofield, Metheny, or Benson in decades, I'll ignore the Ibanez remark. The people I do listen to seem to have leaned heavily toward Gibson, followed by Epiphone.
And yes, it can still be the 50s in some ways, if you have the desire and the will to distance yourself from the 24/7/365 idiot festival that is the 21st century.
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Originally Posted by jazzbow
Originally Posted by Boston Joe
But Ibanez has been keeping Benson, Sco and Metheny guitars in their stable for decades tho .. yay
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Interesting tidbit that I just looked up. Mike Stern's signature Yamaha has a 7.25" radius neck. That might shake people in their boots over at TDPRI.
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I dunno .. Currently they are too busy lamenting that Fender discontinued their beloved avri's and replaced them with was essentially is an avri series, but with 9.5" and medium jumbos
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