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Originally Posted by Spook410
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04-01-2024 04:56 PM
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Originally Posted by dconeill
So we have:
The 1164 guitars made by John D'Angelico (I own three of these and each is a sublime guitar)
High quality hand made archtops made under license by a variety of luthiers since the 1980's (I own one of these made by ex-Gibson Luthiers and it too is a sublime guitar)
Asian factory guitars made since the 1990's (and perhaps even earlier without the benefit of Brand license) in Japan, Korea, Indonesia and China (I have owned two of the Korean made ones and can report that they were very good electric guitars, but far from exceptional and neither was a keeper for me)
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Originally Posted by GordonM
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Originally Posted by GordonM
As for the fact that they are made in Korea IMHO is irrelevant. Whether the factory is in Korea, Japan, Indonesia, Vietnam, China, Mexico, or the U.S. (D'Angelico currently uses them all depending on the model and target market} it will produce an instrument in accordance with the specifications and materials that are included in their contract; nothing more, nothing less. I'm sure that these new D'Angelico guitars are simply the best guitar that the company can produce to sell at a predetermined MSRP to meet the needs of a predetermined market.
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I think that the Korean made EXL-1 is pretty identical to the Original Excel. When I bought mine several years ago here in Los Angeles we put it up against very Expensive Gibsons and Original D'Angelico's. This test concluded that the Gibsons don't have the power as the New D'Angelico's (of Course I will hated for what I just said and who cares). Acousticly they have more sound and can be used just as an acoustic guitar if you want can't do that with very many Gibson hollow bodies. I remember on a blog like this some guy asked me did you play every Gibson L5 to make that determination I said no but I only played one D'Angelico EXL-1 Ha lol.
I think when you get a new product made in another country and made pretty much they way they use to make them there is a sense to knock it down however ask Bucky Pizzarelli he like the new D'Angelico's and said they were very close if not spot on to what we have today ...........
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Originally Posted by joebonni
And regarding asking Bucky Pizzarelli about this, well we would need a medium to do that, seeing as Bucky passed away some years ago.
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Originally Posted by Stringswinger
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Originally Posted by joebonni
Perhaps you should do a little research on these guitars before posting here? You may also want to figure out how to post pictures.......
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Originally Posted by joebonni
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Originally Posted by Spook410
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Well, an instrument with a lot of acoustic properties is not always what's needed...that's why 175's remain popular. Though a lightly built 50's 175 has a surprising amount of acoustic oomph.
The current D'Angelicos are fine guitars, and decent bang for the buck. But comparing them to the instruments made in a one man shop decades ago is a bit silly.
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Originally Posted by joebonni
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Oh, c'mon, it's just kind of amusing.
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Originally Posted by Hammertone
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You said Gibson made at least two D'As; any information on them? Thanks.
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Originally Posted by joebonni
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Here I forgot one thing maybe I got the one off that was made better than some of the other EXL-1’s. That’s why I bought this guitar it blew out all the other jazz boxes in the shop. This could be a giant factor! So let’s just chalk it up to experience.
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Originally Posted by Stringswinger
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New D’Angelico Tours and Premier line have been have been selling at massive discounts in the UK for a while now. Don’t know if anyone has insight into why that might be - I’m assuming people just weren’t buying them for original MSRP, despite the big marketing push and them being, by all accounts, decent instruments.
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Originally Posted by Palehorseo
The other thing and this bugs the hell out me is the inflation and businesses going under and just getting rid of stock because they can't afford to make a living anymore. This is really sad because it always effects musicians and other then arguing about guitar and such LOL musicians as a hole are pretty cool chicks and dudes.
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