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    Quote Originally Posted by jim777 View Post
    Not only is this Tele great for blues and jazz, it is also wonderful for soups and stews

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    For scooping the mids.

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  3. #1877

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    Quote Originally Posted by jim777 View Post
    Not only is this Tele great for blues and jazz, it is also wonderful for soups and stews

    Amazon.ca Something Went Wrong / Quelque chose s'est mal passe
    From the Fender Custard Shop.

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    I was against Tele in jazz all my life until recent event:
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tomcat View Post
    I was against Tele in jazz all my life until recent event:
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    Stone gorgeous! I've always had a soft spot for rosewood Fenders. Congratulations, and play it in good health!

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    A recent thread on Telecasters vs Les Pauls for jazz got me thinking. The Tele is obviously the better choice (don’t tell them on that thread!). But to me, the reason why is that the Tele has many features of the best archtops.

    It made me wonder: what if I made a Tele with every possible attribute the same as an L5 Wes:


    • 25.5” Scale
    • Maple neck
    • Ebony Fretboard
    • L5-style frets
    • Gibson 57 Classic Neck Pickup
    • L5 Volume/Tone/Wiring
    • TI Flatwounds


    The strings would be identical, vibrating the identical distance, on the same fretboard and neck, and the pickup and wiring would be identical.

    That means that the only differences are the bridge material (can be made more similar), the guitar head break angle (how much does that matter?), and most obvious, the hollow body.

    I’d be curious to hear from engineer types, all else being equal, what would make a “Wescaster” sound most like a Wes L5?

    (It’d never be identical, but interesting thought experiment, and it would be a beautiful “necksquire”).

  7. #1881

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    I suppose you might get close. However, the other part of the equation is will it play like an L5? Seems like you would need a slightly wider and flatter fretboard for one. Personally I like the original Fender specs on Fenders and original Gibson specs on Gibsons. They just seem right to me that way. Electronics can be variable, however. Certain aspects of those have been improved upon IMHO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by markesquire
    A recent thread on Telecasters vs Les Pauls for jazz got me thinking. The Tele is obviously the better choice (don’t tell them on that thread!). But to me, the reason why is that the Tele has many features of the best archtops.

    It made me wonder: what if I made a Tele with every possible attribute the same as an L5 Wes:


    • 25.5” Scale
    • Maple neck
    • Ebony Fretboard
    • L5-style frets
    • Gibson 57 Classic Neck Pickup
    • L5 Volume/Tone/Wiring
    • TI Flatwounds


    The strings would be identical, vibrating the identical distance, on the same fretboard and neck, and the pickup and wiring would be identical.

    That means that the only differences are the bridge material (can be made more similar), the guitar head break angle (how much does that matter?), and most obvious, the hollow body.

    I’d be curious to hear from engineer types, all else being equal, what would make a “Wescaster” sound most like a Wes L5?

    (It’d never be identical, but interesting thought experiment, and it would be a beautiful “necksquire”).
    Ha, I experimented with this same idea to get a Tele as close to my ES-125 as possible (posted earlier in this thread):
    - 24.75” scale
    - mahogany neck
    - rosewood fretboard
    - P90 pickup
    - 500K pots, .022uf cap
    - TI flatwounds

    It definitely did not become an ES-125 but easily the most jazzy sounding Tele I have come across!

    I would say scale, neck an fretboard material and pickup already take you 60% or so there.

    To come closer I think you need to construct the body also like an archtop (those do exist) but since I am no luthier I had to settle for what I could find (which was a mahogany thinline design body). In case of the L5 that would mean fully hollow with a carved spruce top.

    I thinks those Tele’s do exist, like this one by Japanese builder Nittono:


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    To me, a big part of the archtop *feel* or geometry is how far above the body the strings lie. The strings on a Tele are so close to the body in comparison, weird arch-Teles aside.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigDaddyLoveHandles
    To me, a big part of the archtop *feel* or geometry is how far above the body the strings lie. The strings on a Tele are so close to the body in comparison, weird arch-Teles aside.
    That is definitely a valid point! A more archtop-like neck angle would be important.

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    This I have now, a MIJ Tokai ATE 88 tele. Love it, its really an old school tele

    ATE-01 — ImgBB

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    I've been looking through this thread and am surprised not to see mention of the cunife equipped American Original Tele Customs.

    I thought they would be perfect for jazz. I guess not?

    I've heard some sound samples and they seem a tad brighter than the 70's pickups. With prices still reasonable for the vintage guitars, I am tempted to give one a try.

    Any Custom or Deluxe players around?

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    Here is my CB Hill Tele. I've changed the pickups on it a few times but I think I've settled on something nice. The neck pickup is an old Guild HB-1 and the bridge pickup is a Righteous Sound Sweet Ella. It's noiseless, has a similar output to the HB-1, works well with 500k pots, and somehow still sounds mostly like a Telecaster bridge pickup. It's pretty neat!

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    Quote Originally Posted by petermelton View Post
    Here is my CB Hill Tele. I've changed the pickups on it a few times but I think I've settled on something nice. The neck pickup is an old Guild HB-1 and the bridge pickup is a Righteous Sound Sweet Ella. It's noiseless, has a similar output to the HB-1, works well with 500k pots, and somehow still sounds mostly like a Telecaster bridge pickup. It's pretty neat!
    Yeah, Peter -- sweet CB!! Everything he makes is wonderful!

    Marc

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    Brand new Fender MIM Teles and Strats through SlickDeals for $519 w/ free shipping, likely only for a few days.

    Fender Limited Edition Player Stratocaster or Telecaster Electric Guitars (Blue)

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    Quote Originally Posted by jim777 View Post
    Brand new Fender MIM Teles and Strats through SlickDeals for $519 w/ free shipping, likely only for a few days.
    Had to resist that. Wanted to pick up just for the Lake Placid Blue.