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This is amazing, I literally bought the exact same guitar yesterday at GC for my 50th! So far it seems like a great guitar, love the vibe. Hope you enjoy it !!
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02-18-2019 11:58 PM
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That’s hilarious!
Originally Posted by bob32069
Glad you’re liking it. They ran out at Musicians Friend so I called GC and they had 15 left so I decided to pull the trigger. I guess they have 13 left now
What’s your take on the neck?
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That sounds promising to me. If it’s in normal Les Paul territory, it will be good. Originally Posted by GNAPPI
I’ve been playing so much Grant Green lately that my 9 year old recognizes his playing as a sideman in records. Originally Posted by Dedalus
Me too.
It elicits memories of my first jazz guitar discovery: Grant Green's Idle Moments.
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That's actually spot on. The first fret is exactly the same distance away from you as a LP when resting on my right leg while a 335 is a farther reach. Playing the 2018 330 in pitch black will be immediately familiar if you play a LP. Originally Posted by blille
On the down side, the 2018's have BB pups which I generally don't like, but the ones on the 330 are particularly shrill, they are going sooner than later. I suspected this before I pulled the trigger fully expecting to replace the BB's.
This 330 is THE most comfortable Gibson I own or have owned to play.Last edited by GNAPPI; 02-19-2019 at 06:21 PM.
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Congrats! You're going to have a great NGD!!!!
There was one of those (an earlier model) that came through the local shop a few years ago that I tried and I still think about.
Gibson was doing more of a brownbust then. The guitar was resonant and very jazzy. I loved it (much more than any 335 I tried) but I was broke. I was only able to talk myself out of putting it on my credit card because I wasn't in love with the small frets on that edition. That was my "no I'm not going to buy this right now" justification. But the tone, the nice thick neck . . . mmmmmm
BTW, the neck was thick but just right thick, not too thick. 330 is a super cool guitar!!! Enjoy your upcoming NGD !!!
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Haven't played it a ton yet due to work getting in the way but I find the neck comfortable, in fact the guitar is in general well balanced and comfortable. Originally Posted by blille
That’s hilarious!
Glad you’re liking it. They ran out at Musicians Friend so I called GC and they had 15 left so I decided to pull the trigger. I guess they have 13 left now
What’s your take on the neck?
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Nice! An ES-330 has always been on my want list. It’s such a good sounding guitar. I don’t know if I’ll ever get one as I’ve sold most of my collection since I rarely played them compared to my number 1 so I’ll just live vicariously through you. Enjoy!
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Well, I went to pick it up to GC today.
Really liked it. The sound I expected and the neck was just perfect. You were all right
On the down side I think it was a demo or open box because it had some light scratching even though it had the plastic on the pickguard. Just like you get after a week of playing. I complained to the manager and they threw in a nice discount. Pretty sure I’ll polish it off.
Really happy. Now it’s in lockdown until my actual birthday lol.
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Cool, can you let us know how they differ? I’m looking at both and other variations. Cheers Originally Posted by blille
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If you play Jazz IMHO the pickups on the Peerless or normal Casino have to go. They are very hot. The build quality on the Peerless is actually very nice. Not to the level of detail in fretwork for example you get with a Gibson (when they have a good day) but still good. I also liked the 1965 Casino reissue but ended up with the Peerless. Heard good things about the Lennon model but didn’t play one. The normal MIC Casinos I played weren’t that great in terms of build quality though. And I am not a country origin snob. I’ve played an Indonesian Squier live Originally Posted by p1p
If the neck of the 330 hadn’t worked out, the Epi Casino Elitist was next on the list.
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This is a weird thing about Gibson. The P90 comes with a pickguard, the HB model does not. I bought a laminated 5 ply 335 PG and it's actually VERY cool. The switch nestles up closer to the pickguard like my ES-345 or Tal Farlow making it tough to accidentally snick to another position. Maybe Gibson thought this looked weird and they couldn't bother making one that looked more like a 335 proportionally? Dunno... many 345's have the same longer PG and I think they look great.
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I’m not surprised about the pickguard. I think the jury is still out with the 335/330/Casino shape on it being necessary. The ES-333, Casino Lennon, ES-335 Studio come without one and a bunch of people take it out. I like it too and I’m glad you made yours work.
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COngrats on your NGD
You are going to love it. I picked up one of these (in the UK) - brought it second hand from a guy who had only had it for 3 months, and I paid way less than half the price of a new one.
It needed a little polish but it was then good as new. And it had a lovely dark 'board like yours
As for strings...I had Pure Nickel 12s on it and they worked well. But then I put some flats on it and it was - for me - perfect
Play your new guitar in good health
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I just realized I never came back! Sorry!
It is no longer in lock down, I've been enjoying it healthily for a few months. I also sold my Peerless Songbird.
I couldn't be happier. Love the neck, the definition and clarity of the notes particularly with my PRRI. Highly recommended.
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How much better is it than the Peerless?
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I would say it is clearly better but it's hard to point at specifics because the Peerless was well built and what I really didn't like I changed (pickups, bridge). The Gibson feels overall more "robust" and better built and overall I like the tone better. It's a bit heavier but sounds more "hollow" so there may be a construction difference that contributes to this.
I kept both for some time to be able to compare. In terms of how much I don't think the over 2x difference in price is "justified", maybe a 30% better? That to me when you're already happy with an instrument is pretty awesome though.
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Thanks for the comparison! I know older Epiphone Casinos have thin floating block under the top, adding quite a bit of mass, where the 330 has a kerfed spruce liner (more like a series of parallel braces):
Casino:
ES-330:
That probably explains why the 330 feels and sounds more hollow?
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Thanks! That makes sense. How about the weight? The 330 is noticeably heavier. Still obviously light, mind you.
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I have noticed that what is called mahogany in Asian guitars, usually are lighter types of mahogany or not even mahogany at all (actually, many woods are classified as mahogany, but there are only a few types of true mahogany). Same goes for the other woods used in the laminates. So probably the use of locally (read: in Asia) more readily available lighter types of woods explain the difference in weight. Originally Posted by blille
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A tip for the OP: If you got a buzz while playing a D, look inside for the bridge mic cable. It could be too long and buzz on the back of your guitar when playing certain frequencies.
It took me 2 hours to find it (with only two hands you have to pick the string with your nose while muffling all the vibrating zones).
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I had a dream... i was playing an old Es 330 and it was so nice. So i tried one from 1967 2 weeks ago in a vintage shop and i really loved it... thé sound, thé weigth, thé design...everything ... unfortunately it was already booked and i cried. Thé price in paris for that guitar is 4200 euros ( my bank cries..)
Now i am still hunting and i have a contact for a 1960 model for a lower price !
Dot instead of inlays, shorter neck, maybe also a diffèrent neck design...
Prices on reverb for a es 330TD SB 1960 are between 4000 and 10 000 euros so it is crazy !!! Thé one i am looking for is to sell for 3800 euros ( no mods). Is it a correct price for you or it is too low to be fair ?
What are the main points to check on a vintage guitar ? For that model maybe ?
Does someone Already compared a 1959-1961 model with on older one with longer neck ? Pro and cons ?
Last question for es330 users, what is your favorite amp to play clean jazz or with a bit of OD ? I havé currently a vibroluxe Clone and a DV mark LJ.
Thanks for your help
Julien
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In general the short-neck (16th fret body joint) are much more sought after and usually command higher prices. Dot-necks command higher prices than block-necks. (That's why the VOS is a reissue of the '59 dot-neck.)
So a 1960 for 'only' €3800 is either a great bargain or a dog :-D.
The VOS and RI models command asking prices of €2700-2900 in the used market over here in the Netherlands, but I don see them go for those prices. New I see them advertised for around €3000-3200 but the supply and choice is very thin.
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Definitely the 16th fret joint, I agree. It’s a different guitar otherwise IMHO. Also the pickups not being new, high output, but I feel that’s with any guitar.
I play with a Tweed Deluxe, big fan. Also big fan with a PRRI. I think it’s hard to go wrong
If you want to be able to buy the guitar and pay the rent you can consider a more recent model (I’m happy with my 2018) or even a recent MIJ Casino Elitist, you may be positively surprised.
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All of the 330 guitars are GREAT. However, the short-neck ones are the best! There is nothing wrong with the block-neck, metal covered P90 examples. They just don't look like Grant Green's guitar. The short-neck ones get THAT sound, however. And what a sound it is.
The weight, feel, and total vibe of those instruments is just perfect.
Good luck in your quest.
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I have seen Epiphone Casinos, the '61 ReIssue model (just like a vintage ES330 w. 16th fret neck join and Gibson USA p90's and electronics for sale used, on Reverb. There were some from Germany, and elsewhere in Europe, north of France. Buy one! They are great re-issues with great tone woods and necks.
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